Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: olsen@masala.LCS.MIT.EDU (James Olsen) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Army customs...saluting Message-ID: <1991Mar14.014655.18003@cbnews.att.com> Date: 14 Mar 91 01:46:55 GMT References: <1991Mar4.212815.9865@cbnews.att.com> <1991Mar6.042927.25702@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (william.b.thacker) Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Lines: 50 Approved: military@att.att.com From: olsen@masala.LCS.MIT.EDU (James Olsen) >>The origin of 'lieutenant' come from 'left attendant'... >That's a nice story, and may be true for the English "leftenant". However, >the American "lieutenant" comes from the French, and means "someone who >acts instead (or in the place of) another"... Well, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, both usages stem from the French 'lieu'='place' and 'tenant'='holder'. The rank was sometimes called lieutenant-captain, clearly indicating that the lieutenant was acting as the captain's surrogate. This parallels the current lieutenant-colonel and lieutenant-general ranks. (The origin of the English 'leftenant' pronunciation is a bit obscure, and might be due to medieval Englishmen mishearing the French pronunciation.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- My curiosity having been piqued, I have come up with thumbnail derivations of the other main rank names still in common use: Private, from Latin privatus [withdrawn from public life and public office]: a soldier who holds no office (i.e., not an officer or NCO). Corporal, from Italian corpo [body]: a soldier who leads a body of troops. Sergeant, from Latin servientem [servant]: a soldier who attends to a knight in battle. Lieutenant, see above. Captain, from Latin capitanus [chief]: a military leader. Major, from French major [short for sergeant-major]: an officer next superior to a captain. 'sergeant-major' could, at various times, denote a rank as high as major-general today. Colonel, from Italian colonnella [little column]: officer leading the little column of troops at the head of a regiment. General, from Latin generalis [pertaining to an entire class or kind]: the officer commanding the entire army. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's interesting to note that some ranks (such as private) are essentially unchanged over the centuries, while others (such as sergeant) have varied enormously.