Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: sexist spaces Message-ID: <9103141008.AA27039@rpp386.Cactus.ORG> Date: 14 Mar 91 16:08:52 GMT Sender: news@aero.org Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Lines: 46 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org I went to school in Jefferson Parish, LA. Anyone who thinks that all-male or all-female schools have any great advantage should study that school system from the middle 1960's to 1980. Because of the racial integration of the public schools, the high schools were segregated by sex until court ordered sexual integration occured in 1980. Advanced subjects, or subjects which required special equipment were sexual integrated by busing (such as German, which wasn't a popular language, or Auto Body, which required a machine shop). There were several girls in my German class, and even a few in the Mechanical Drafting course I took. Some boys did take the bus to the girls high schools in the afternoon (I think it was afternoon for boy -> girl and morning for girl -> boy busing). So there was an oppurtunity for any girl or boy to take courses at the other schools, and busloads of them did. While Jefferson Parish had a higher-than-state-average for education level, it still lagged far behind "national" levels of education. The high school I attended had a good number of academic honor students, but in a state which frequently competes against Mississippi and Alabama for lowest level of education in the nation, I don't see that this is a great achievement. Jefferson Parish was doing well to be =at= the national average, and it was a predominately Anglo middle-class part of the state, except for some parts of the parish that were Cajun-French or Hispanic. My ex-wife student-taught in the high school I attended a few years after I had left (1979) and told me sexual integration was a mistake because the pregnancy rate skyrocketed the first few years girls and boys were together. I've never bothered to verify that her statement was or wasn't true. At the time I believed it, but it could have been caused by any number of things, including teacher perception. I won't say whether or not I feel the school district should have been sexually integrated. I am only providing this information for those of you that would spend your time conducting the experiment for more than two months. It was conducted at my high school for about 15 years. Other school districts, such as the Orleans Parish district (City of New Orleans and surrounding areas) are still somewhat sexually segregated because of the high degree of private education. You might contact those schools as well as there are still boys-only and girls-only private schools to compare against the both-genders private schools. -- John F. Haugh II | Distribution to | UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh Ma Bell: (512) 832-8832 | GEnie PROHIBITED :-) | Domain: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org "I've never written a device driver, but I have written a device driver manual" -- Robert Hartman, IDE Corp.