Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!dimacs.rutgers.edu!seismo!ukma!rex!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero-c!nadel From: ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Carolyn Ford) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: <2995@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> Date: 14 Mar 91 20:32:34 GMT Sender: news@aero.org Reply-To: ford@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu () Distribution: usa Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 29 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org I need some advice/suggestions for the following delimma: My partner and I are having an ongoing debate on the harmfulness or harmlesness of "light" pornography, specifically "Playboy." My normally open-minded and understanding partner insists that it is completely innocuous, and he sees nothing wrong with looking at these women because they're beautiful, and there is nothing wrong with the human body. My argument is that these magazines portray women as the playthings of men, and the idea that women in general are primarily around for the pleasure of men. Now I know there was a raging debate in this newsgroup last year on the pros/cons of pornography. It is not my intent to start that up again. I have decided that, yes, I believe the human body is beautiful, and that there is nothing wrong with human sexuality, so what I am looking for are books or magazines that celebrate the beauty of mutual sexuality. I would be willing to trade him "erotica" involving both sexes which promotes positive feelings about both sexes, in exchange for him giving up his subscription to Playboy. Does anybody know if such things exist? Thanks for any help. Yes, I am reading Andrea Dworkin's _Pornography_ at the moment, but I think it's not going to help me out much in my argument because Playboy doesn't show bondage, abuse, etc. My partner would be very opposed to those things, but still sees Playboy as harmless. carolyn