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From: mib@churchy.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
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Subject: Re: Gay Ordination in the Presbyterian Church
Message-ID: <Mar.18.10.39.32.1991.6096@athos.rutgers.edu>
Date: 18 Mar 91 15:39:35 GMT
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In article <Mar.14.04.13.31.1991.25553@athos.rutgers.edu> brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony) writes:

   Well put. It seems that others are focusing more on the subject of AIDS
   than I am. The pain I was referring to was the pain involved in the
   lifestyle they lead, not in any resulting disease. Being in Australia
   AIDS tends toward the abstract for me, whilst the miseries of multiple
   dating, drugs, drunk driving and other unwise lifestyles abound.

Now this is getting ridiculous.  Let's say it again.  Being gay, and
having gay sex, is not directly related to multiple dating at all.
How drugs and drunk driving got into it is completely beyond me.  

And, if the assumption is that being gay is inherently unhappy, or
disappointing, it certainly isn't any worse than being a woman in our
society.  It's roughly on a par with being a member of any oppressed
group.  It's got its own problems, and its own joys.  But it is simply
a factual error (and one which causes lots of grief on its own) to
claim that being gay is inherently unhappy.

	-mib