Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: HWT@bnr.ca (H.W.) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: re: Christianity and Law Message-ID: Date: 18 Mar 91 16:55:59 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 25 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Dave Gross presents cogently the case that law must be based on a moral framework. He then palms a card by introducing 'relative morality', and concludes in left field, at least. John Stuart Mill's famous "your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins" is far closer to the minimal framework. The pagan ethic 'Do no harm' is quite sufficient (and I'd argue necessary) as the basic of a tolerant multi-cultural system of law. This has consequences, of course, that may be offensive to many: no laws on sex. marriage, or other 'moral' issues. Forty-five people want to marry each other - fine. There are, of course, points at which there is disagreement on what is or causes harm - that's what judges and legislators are for. So, although Dave is right that historically 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' were derived from Judeo-Christian axioms, they can be derived from pagan/humanist principles. P.S. in Canada, we're only guaranteed 'peace, order, and good government'. Henry Troup - HWT@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions "If you have taken a vow of perpetual poverty, you must take your deduction on line 256" - 1990 Canadian Tax Guide