Xref: utzoo gnu.emacs.help:1523 comp.emacs:10371 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unreplyable!garbage From: tiemann@CYGNUS.COM (Michael Tiemann) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Subject: Compress Message-ID: <9103212328.AA01645@cygnus.com> Date: 21 Mar 91 23:28:18 GMT References: <9103212300.AA16511@hpnmd.hp.com> Sender: daemon@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: tiemann@cygnus.com Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help Distribution: world Organization: Cygnus Support, Palo Alto CA; Phone +1 415 322 3811 Lines: 64 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 14:52:53 PST From: darrylo@hpnmxx.hp.com RMS says: > In my own work, I'm not going to install support for using compress as > long as it's something we can't safely use. Some people advise not > worrying about the issue, which means counting on it to be bypassed > before it becomes acute. But this seems risky and unwise to me. [ Normally, I'd keep my mouth shut, as (1) I like the FSF, (2) this topic doesn't belong here, and (3) I really don't have the time to write a reply. However, I can't pass this up. ] RMS says that we should not use compress. Well, that's fine, but we do not yet have a good replacement. Until the FSF releases "GNU file reduction" or whatever, people will continue to use compress, and they'll continue to use compress, and they'll continue to use compress, ad nauseam. Why does everybody have to wait for RMS to do something with free software? Why can't people take more initiative...enough that they don't depend only on one person. This brings up a another "hot" topic: the "timelyness" of FSF software. I'm worried that the world will pass by the FSF. I'm worried about a related problem: the "timeliness" of people's recognition of how they are allocating their resources. I'm worried that too many people will miss too many opportunities just waiting for others to do their work for them. I'm sure that I am not alone when I say that I support the FSF, and that I really appreciate what they are doing. However, the incredibly slow rate of software development is nearly unbelievable (I like to think of it as "legendary"). I realize that part of the problem may be beyond the control of the FSF, but the two biggest offenders are GNU Emacs and Bash. Those people who follow the Bash saga will know what I'm talking about. I don't really know. I've been running bash for about a year, and I love it. Occaisionally somebody replaces my bash with a newer version, but since I've never had a problem (well, more than one), I don't find out until it comes up in conversation. Of course I'm not a power bash user, so perhaps my perspective is not that important. I'm not trying to insult the developers of GNU Emacs or Bash -- I really appreciate what they are doing. However, I would appreciate it if the FSF would take MUCH MORE CARE with announcing schedules. It's very, super, incredibly, unbelievably annoying when a developer says that program "X" will be released in a couple of weeks, and then months, or even years, pass by. FSF has very little control over an amazingly large problem. When you consider that their total annual income is probably less than $1M, that they are a non-profit organization, primarily devoted to serving hackers by sharing with them, you'll realize just how unimportant the needs of company X or company Y can appear. Michael Disclaimer: I work for a company that cares how company X and company Y are having their needs met by free software.