Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!batcomputer!llenroc!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!carroll From: carroll@ssc-vax (Jeff Carroll) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch Message-ID: <3722@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: 19 Mar 91 18:48:27 GMT References: <1991Mar18.104444.29128@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <1991Mar18.214745.6496@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <1991Mar19.082948.10987@athena.mit.edu> Sender: news@ssc-vax.UUCP Reply-To: carroll@ssc-vax.UUCP (Jeff Carroll) Organization: Boeing Aerospace & Electronics Lines: 48 In article <1991Mar19.082948.10987@athena.mit.edu> jsc@riddler.MIT.EDU (Jin S Choi) writes: > >I've found it occasionally useful in identifying keys of pieces and tuning >instruments. Other than that, it can actually be quite an annoying ability >to have. For one thing, it is much easier to transpose while taking dictation > if you have relative pitch, >it's just like taking dictation without transposing; you can't really tell Transposing is very difficult. I used to have a miserable time playing B-flat trumpet in high school, and embarrassed myself on a number of occasions by misidentifying the pitch of a tone that sounded "brassy". (Once people find out that you have perfect pitch, you become something of a sideshow, whether you want to or not.) >the difference. A slightly more relevant case: many classical tapes are >recorded to play back at a slightly higher pitch than recorded. This is >supposed to give the music a ' > (I assume he typed 'brighter' here, and his text editor chopped the line.) > >er' tone. I think this is really ridiculous because a) if you don't have >perfect pitch, how can you tell? and b) if you do have perfect pitch and >you know the piece, it's annoying to listen to something being played a >semitone higher than it's supposed to be. I believe that this does serious violence to the composer's music. Though I have no training in psychoacoustics, I do have strong emotional reactions to as little as a half-step shift in key, and I believe that people who haven't developed perfect pitch do as well (in varying degrees). There's a *lot* of difference between, for example, the key of E-flat and the key of E, and to arbitrarily transpose a piece without compelling technical reasons is extremely insensitive. Although I haven't heard this in broadcasts of classical music, I *have* heard it on both classical and popular recordings. I have also heard cases in which popular songs with which I was familiar were played by local radio stations at a *lower* pitch than the recording released to the public - clearly a case of a slow turntable or tape deck. On one occasion I called a station to complain, and the engineer dismissed me as a crackpot. I lead a group of folk musicians with limited instrumental skills. I have not yet succeeded in convincing most of them that there is any value to the use of a guitar capo as opposed to simply transposing the music into a key more accessible to beginning guitarists. This may turn into meaningful research into ear trainability before I'm done... -- Jeff Carroll carroll@ssc-vax.boeing.com