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From: jph@ais.org (Joseph Hillenburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple's claim on GUI techniques
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Date: 20 Mar 91 01:29:30 GMT
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In article <1991Mar19.204622.4797@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes:
>I saw this in comp.sys.mac.system:
>
>------included text----
>In article <4323@gmdzi.gmd.de>, strobl@gmdzi (Wolfgang Strobl) writes:
>>doner@henri.ucsb.edu (John Doner) writes:
>>
>>>As for Windows, the original version, the one current when the Apple
>>>lawsuit was filed, was no more than a slavish copy.
>>
>>As far as I know, the Apple lawsuit wasn't filed against the original 
>>version. Anyway, I would like to hear some arguments why you think that
>>Windows (either version) is a "slavish copy", in your opinion.
>
>Well, I don't know about "slavish copy," but here's the list of
>interface items still under contention (from MacWeek).  I leave it to
>each of you to judge the merits of them:
>

>1.  Overlapping windows.

*smirk* A Sun idea...

>2.  Windows appearing partly on and off screen.

This isn't really something that is important, but still shouldn't be worth
fighting over.

>3.  Windows brought to top when selected.

Another Sun idea

>4.  Active top window.

Yet another Sun idea...

>5.  Gray outline of windows dragged along with cursor.

How does Apple expect us to see what we're dragging? A trivial get-around for
Commodore would be to make it so the entire window moved with the mouse. (which
wouldn't be difficult on an Amiga; NeXT did it, so I don't see any reason why
the Amiga can't...)

>6.  Window redrawn in new position.

Yet another idea which would make the GUI useless...

>7.  Newly exposed areas on screen displayed after window is moved.

Sheesh...what a bunch of morons...and the area is supposed to be *left blank*?

>8.  Movable icons.

Sun idea...

>9.  Icons displayed behind open windows.

Sun idea...

>10. Icon titles.

And we're supposed to use the images to determine what it's for? Sure, some
images are obvious, but this is a GUI must.

IMO, Apple is hypocrites. The real innovators are C=, NeXT, Sun, and XEROX.

I don't think Apple will ever sue NeXT and Sun since they're workstation
manufacturers, and they'll never seriously endanger the Mac's market. However,
Commodore may be sued, I'm afraid.

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