Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!kth.se!sunic!mcsun!ukc!mucs!liv-cs!liv!sb06 From: SB06@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: End of Trapeze (sniff!) Message-ID: <91078.080944SB06@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> Date: 19 Mar 91 08:09:44 GMT References: <91071.175809SB06@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> <2717@shodha.enet.dec.com> Organization: University of Liverpool Lines: 32 Yes - that's what they said - no plans to upgrade.. I too would like to see someone pick this up and develop it. It is streets ahead of things like Excel 3 - I use Trapeze all the time for 'playing' with data, for standard lab analyses, and for simulations. I'd like a macro language, but I'll take Trapeze over any of the other spreasheets. For those who don't know about Trapeze, it is a totally free format spreadsheet where data are set up in blocks (use type 'invisible' for intermediate calcs) and named. The blocks resize themselves automatically - take a block, and enter the formula 1->10 - you get 10col,1row block with cells containing the numbers 1 to 10. Change the formula to 1->20 and the block resizes.. Name this block "horiz". Now make another bloc, named "vert" and put in the formula 1|10 - this makes a 1col,10row block containing 1..10. Now, the neat bit, make a third block, and enter the formula 'horiz * vert' - and it changes to a 10r,20c block with a multiplication table in it...!! It's a simple example, but illustrates Trapeze well. The rest of the screen /page is blank (no guidelines, grids or similar). The block can be outlined and look good when printed. Text blocks allow for labelling, and graphics can be put anywhere on the screen/page. Please, someone, rescue Trapeze and market it hard and properly! This is a scientists spreadsheet.. Rob Rob beynon, Biochemistry, Liverpool, UK