Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ncar!gatech!mcnc!beguine!mikef From: mikef@bbs.acs.unc.edu (Michael Freedburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Excel and Word on pcs and macs Keywords: Stupid argument Message-ID: <3016@beguine.UUCP> Date: 19 Mar 91 15:59:32 GMT Sender: usenet@beguine.UUCP Lines: 46 phil@brahms.amd.com (Phil Ngai) writes, that win has Excel 3.0, what does the mac have, implying that windows now have a killer spreadsheet application while mac users still rely on Multiplan or something. Excel 3.0 will be out for the Macintosh in very short order and will provide all of the features found in the windows version. I am stunned at Phil Ngai's assertion that Word for Windows is much better than the Macintosh version. How so? There are a number of features in the Macintosh version that are differently implemented in Word for Windows and rarely as well. Take the Define Styles dialog box, not the easiest thing on the Macintosh and even more cumbersome to use in Word for Windows. What precisely makes Word for Windows better? The fact that it is a windows app? Please... This entire matter is way out of hand. Everyone knows better than the hardware and software people how it all should be done. My feeling is, if you are such a *&^%$ know-it-all, why don't you design, produce, and market this be-all and end-all computer? It is so easy to point to flaws, but much harder to correct them and even much more difficult to design a product that is somehow totally error-free and suffers in no way from any compromises in terms of design or pricing or performance. Lessing countered the argument against the critic by claiming that one did not need to be a cook to know that a soup is too salty, but he also knew that recognizing the fault does not make one a cook. Apple, Microsoft, IBM, DEC are **businesses** and not saints. On the matter of how intuitive it is to use a Macintosh, it is not ever been a matter of totally hiding the OS from the user, but making the OS much more alike to other operating environments with which the user might be familiar. Take the C:\> prompt. To what does that refer? A disk, a command line, what? A new user cannot possibly deduce from it to what it refers. Now take the disk icon that actually looks like a floppy. It may not be obvious which disk it is or where that disk may be, but there is rarely any confusion about the referent of that object. It refers to a disk. The trash can is a clear and meaningful icon to ***any*** of the beginners I have taught. The C:\> prompt is not. Just for reference: I do hands-on training in DOS, Macintosh, and Unix at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, as well as User Services and have almost 6 years of experience in using and training under my belt. Flame me all you want, but leave me out of this. mikef@samba.acs.unc.edu