Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!waikato.ac.nz!ldo From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: TrueType versus ATM Message-ID: <1991Mar21.161132.3195@waikato.ac.nz> Date: 21 Mar 91 16:11:32 +1300 References: <1991Mar20.164934.3177@waikato.ac.nz> <1991Mar20.080055.26542@neon.Stanford.EDU> <1991Mar20.193744.10870@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Lines: 46 In article <1991Mar20.193744.10870@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies) brings up a couple of objections to my comparative speed tests of TrueType versus ATM: "(1) Adobe's algorithm may indeed produce better 300dpi or 180dpi results. This is because adobe's font hints are just data structures, and the algorithm that makes use of these data structures is still proprietary and is still rumored to do a superior job of rasterizing fonts. Superior 180dpi and/or 300dpi results are probably what you want in the long for a quickdraw printer driver." It's true that Adobe's hinting scheme may have started out as a pure data-driven design, with the actual hinting algorithms hidden in the PostScript implementation. But it's no longer so pure. Current versions of Adobe fonts do indeed contain procedural PostScript code to implement some of the hinting--see Appendix 3 of the "Adobe Type 1 Font Format" book, version 1.1. Moral: a high-level, data-only hinting scheme may not be as wonderful as you might think. As for the quality of Adobe's fonts and hinting versus that of the TrueType font designers, I'll leave that to others to argue about --for now. "(2) If ATM 2.0 does indeed use type-1 'hinting' to produce these improved fonts, then two different fonts may have completely different amounts of hinting, not to mention different amounts of total fill, and serifs, etc. In my opinion, only similiar fonts (times - times, helvetica - helvetica, etc) can be compared in a meaningful way." I'll concede that, in principle, you have a point. Something like this did indeed cross my mind. However, since my timings were consistent across different fonts--to within the accuracy that I could measure--I'm inclined to believe that, for these common fonts (corresponding to the ones built into current LaserWriters), the difference is insignificant. But I'm ready to be proved wrong. Enough talk--let's have some more tests! Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-71-562-889 Computer Services Dept fax: +64-71-384-066 University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz Hamilton, New Zealand 37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00 When you've been swimming in C for too long, you get brine-damaged.