Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!mcnc!uvaarpa!murdoch!turing!jon From: jon@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Jon Gefaell) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: IRC and Security Message-ID: <1991Mar19.173303.20613@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: 19 Mar 91 17:33:03 GMT References: <7748@uceng.UC.EDU> <24519@hydra.gatech.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 37 In article <24519@hydra.gatech.EDU> scott@prism.gatech.EDU (Scott Holt) writes: >There are a number of pluses and minuses concerning IRC - however, >the so-called security problems it causes are problems it has in >common with any communications medium. I don't think you will find >any medium which has not been used for some criminal purpose at some >time in its existance. > >The problems I have with IRC have nothing to do with security, but >the resources it takes. It has been mentioned that IRC is not a >heavy load on resources - to that my reply is b------t. It may be >a minor drain on network facilities, but it is a serious drain on other >resources. This sounds like a site specific concern. I urge to to deal with the matter within your domain in any manner you wish. I also urge you not to make your problems ours. >others are waiting - what are we supposed to do, walk around an look >over everyones'shoulders? Get more seats, or design, implement, and enforce local policies to eliminate IRC in your domain. >I think the only way to keep IRC and similar facilities from becoming >more trouble than they are worth is for the folks to manage the relays >to take more responsibility. For example, if some site administrators >do not want people using IRC, then they should be able to have the >relay operators configure the relay to deny access to their sites. You might consider taking action to restrict use of port 6667, or other means. -- ____ \ / Jon Gefaell (jon@Turing.acs.Virginia.EDU) \/ The pleasure of satisfying a savage instinct, undomesticated by the ego, is uncomparably much more intense than one of satisfying a tamed instinct. The reason is becoming the enemy that prevents us from a lot of possibilities of pleasure. S. Freud