Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jarthur!bgribble From: bgribble@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Bill Gribble) Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: Amiga 3000UX, X, OpenLook, Motif, Color, A2410, Etc. (somewhat long) Message-ID: <11342@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Date: 21 Mar 91 19:30:10 GMT References: <1991Mar20.211652.3247@kessner.denver.co.us> <1991Mar21.085254.5325@kessner.denver.co.us> Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711 Lines: 40 Just a few notes to add fuel to the fl- uh, discussion. [Please don't misinterpret this as a wholehearted endorsement of Amiga Unix: I still have doubts. But I am concerned with what appears to be misinformation or misconception.] About getting a high-resolution display, and the concern that doing so would put the 3000ux into high end pricing: if you don't really care about color (I know, that's not valid for everybody) the A2024 monitor has been available for some time with (I think) 1280x800, 4 grey scale. This is as good as your typical low end SPARC or NeXTstation. And a quick check to the price list reveals that the A2024 is the same price as the 1950, and is (if I'm not mistaken) swappable with the 1950 in any unix bundles. About the I-like-386i-unix guy's assertion that text-only virtual terminals are pretty hip: Commodore agrees wholeheartedly. That's why you can get up to [I think] 20 of them on the current release of Amiga Unix without ever even thinking about X. About the 3000ux as a viable competitor in the lowend workstation market: [this is entirely conjecture, so don't believe a word of it] I think the 3000ux's main competitor right now is the NeXTstation, and, frankly, the ux is losing right now, The lack of available 040 cards is what does it. But a 3000ux + A2024 + 040 = NeXTstation + 100meg of disk + expansion potential. The expansion capability is an unquantifiable benefit, but if I can get a 040-based 3000ux running sys5 I would definitely overlook a fair-sized price differential in the NeXT's favor, especially since this computer will be mine (and the only one I have) rather than the school's or the company's and I don't want to stick myself with a NeXTstation with absolutely NO way to make it any better. Honestly, at this point, I really don't know what's going to happen with Amiga Unix. But I give them a lot more credit than most people on this group seem to. ************************************************************************* ** Bill Gribble Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA ** ** bgribble@jarthur.claremont.edu Never heard of it? You're stupid. ** *****************************************************************************