Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!kessner!david From: david@kessner.denver.co.us (David Kessner) Subject: Re: Amiga 3000UX, X, OpenLook, Motif, Color, A2410, Etc. (somewhat long) Message-ID: <1991Mar22.034340.8536@kessner.denver.co.us> Reply-To: david@kessner.denver.co.us (David D. Kessner) Organization: Kessner, Inc References: <1991Mar21.085254.5325@kessner.denver.co.us> <11342@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 03:43:40 GMT In article <11342@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> bgribble@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Bill Gribble) writes: >About getting a high-resolution display, and the concern that doing so > would put the 3000ux into high end pricing: if you don't really care > about color (I know, that's not valid for everybody) the A2024 monitor > has been available for some time with (I think) 1280x800, 4 grey scale. > This is as good as your typical low end SPARC or NeXTstation. And a > quick check to the price list reveals that the A2024 is the same price > as the 1950, and is (if I'm not mistaken) swappable with the 1950 in > any unix bundles. I've only seen Amiga UNIX running at 640x400 (or was it 480) on a one-bitplane bitmap and on the U of L board. I was under the impression that the current version of the X software could only deal with one bit-plane image (using the standard video). Now, Assuming that this is so... I'd like to rephrase the sediments of Chris Hanson (who started this line of messages/flames, and has remained silent, heh, heh... That's chris@kessner.denver.co.us! :)... "OpenLook is ugly. But a B&W (not even gray scale) Openlook is doubly so!" (paraphrased) >About the I-like-386i-unix guy's assertion that text-only virtual terminals > are pretty hip: Commodore agrees wholeheartedly. That's why you can > get up to [I think] 20 of them on the current release of Amiga Unix without > ever even thinking about X. Hmmm. I would not think of my comments as "text-only...[is] pritty hip." But there is definately a benifit there. I personally would rather use X windows with it's cut/paste and be able to look at several windows at the same time-- but that is my own preference. Text-only displays are very efficent for many of todays applications, especally on a very text oriented system like UNIX. They take up little memory (for buffering) and have minimal overhead-- scrolling a 4K screen is easier than scrolling a 800x600 screen (512K). However, machines that have a graphic accelerator can make up the speed difference... Here is a question for those C= folk: Does the Amiga UNIX use the blitter for ANYTHING? I know that it is not used for X-- but what about scrolling the "text-only" virtual terminals? Also, can someone set me straight on exactly what video modes X will support on the 3000UX (without the U of L board). - David K -- David Kessner - david@kessner.denver.co.us | do { 1135 Fairfax, Denver CO 80220 (303) 377-1801 (p.m.) | . . . If you cant flame MS-DOS, who can you flame? | } while( jones);