Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!erb1!osnome!hunting From: beal@paladin.owego.ny.us (Alan Beal) Newsgroups: rec.hunting Subject: Re: Dogs and Deer Message-ID: <419@erb1.engr.wisc.edu> Date: 22 Mar 91 13:45:35 GMT Sender: news@erb1.engr.wisc.edu Organization: The Design Committee Lines: 41 Approved: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu From: beal@paladin.owego.ny.us (Alan Beal) Let me clarify my stand out hunting, especially hunting with dogs. I grew up in Maine and spent a good part of my fall hunting for deer and ducks. As you may know Maine doesn't have an abundant supply of deer like Pennsylvania and Michigan; 20,000 deer killed in one year in Maine is about average. But one good thing about Maine is the amount of land that is open to hunting including private land owned by normal citizens and the paper companies. Since the deer population is quite small, one must really work to get one's deer, and one tends to find only serious hunters in the woods after the opening weekend. Relations between landowners and hunters are fairly good; the only people I had problems with were out of state (MA) landowners. Hunting was an enjoyable and safe experience. Most of the hunters I met went hunting to enjoy the outdoors; you had to be this way because one often spent weeks before you got your deer. However, my hunting experiences in Michigan were completely different. I went once with a person to hunt on a farm which amounted to a small patches of woods among the corn fields. This was the only time I have ever been scared in the woods!!! There were so many people packed into these small patches of woods, it sounded like a war. I had slugs skipping through the trees over my head. After that day, I didn't go hunting for a long time, not that I didn't try. But the vast majority of the land was posted. One thing I noticed among my fellow hunters was the attitude that hunting was just a means to get meat. Get one's three deer and take them to the butcher. Scary as well as boring. Now I ask why was all the land posted in Michigan? So when I hear about hunting deer with dogs, I think about the 'out for meat' mentality. Hunting is already viewed as an unnecessary evil by many, especially by some landowners. Can you imagine what those landowners who are neutral on hunting would think after seeing deer being chased by dogs being chased by hunters. I can see the no hunting signs going up the next day. I think we hunters have to present the proper image of hunting and I don't think the majority of people would find hunting deer with dogs too sporting. Hunting has a public relations problem and hunters just out for meat contribute to the problem. -- Alan Beal Internet: beal@paladin.Owego.NY.US USENET: {uunet,uunet!bywater!scifi}!paladin!beal