Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!jarthur!ucivax!gateway From: uunet!igor!rutabaga!jls@ncar.ucar.EDU (Jim Showalter) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Message-ID: Date: 19 Mar 91 18:01:54 GMT References: <2995@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> <27e10cc1.3f0f@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> Lines: 24 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu > I've never seen anything as disturbing > as the movie I saw in psych of women. The porno films I've > seen are more absurd than frightening, but the ones they found > for "Not A Love Story" (NALS) were pretty bad -- Women tied > up being spanked Why is this bad? I have several female friends who are really into this. I'm really into this. Lots of people are really into this. Most of us are gainfully employed well-educated well-adjusted members of the community. The key word is "consent". Non-consensually inflicted pain is not sexy, it's violence--and quite rightly illegal. Consensually inflicted pain (if "pain" is even the right term) is fun. Calling it bad without taking into account that it represents some people's hard-won sexuality is discriminatory. Assuming that the women in bondage porn are hating it is ethnocentric: if you want to talk with some of them to find out how they REALLY feel about it, let me know. -- ***** DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are my own. Duh. Like you'd ever be able to find a company (or, for that matter, very many people) with opinions like mine. -- "When I want your opinion, I'll read it in your entrails."