Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!aero-c!nadel From: dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dave Gross) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: does healthy, mutual erotica exist? Summary: Bondage porn: OK? Message-ID: <27e7a8de.4f0c@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> Date: 20 Mar 91 18:24:30 GMT References: <2995@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> <27e10cc1.3f0f@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> Sender: news@aero.org Organization: Manumission: The Campus Men's Forum Lines: 33 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org According to uunet!igor!rutabaga!jls@ncar.ucar.EDU (Jim Showalter): > dgross said: >> The porno films I've >> seen are more absurd than frightening, but the ones they found >> for "Not A Love Story" (NALS) were pretty bad -- Women tied >> up being spanked > >Why is this bad? I have several female friends who are really into >this. I'm really into this. Lots of people are really into this. Most >of us are gainfully employed well-educated well-adjusted members of >the community. No offense intended. >The key word is "consent". Non-consensually inflicted pain is not >sexy, it's violence--and quite rightly illegal. Although NALS only showed brief excerpts from porno films, the excerpts shown did not give any hint of consent. They just showed the woman tied up (and gagged) and apparantly struggling. To me it looked brutal, but perhaps in the mind of the woman involved it was nonthreatening. I dare not speculate... >Assuming that the women in bondage porn >are hating it is ethnocentric... Huh? Ethnocentric? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- dgross@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TIME IS MONEY! Here's Proof: -- Women earn 74 cents for each dollar than men earn. -- Men live 8.9 years for each decade that women live.