Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: bgsuvax!kutz@cis.ohio-state.edu (Kenneth J. Kutz) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Is the holy spirit a person? Message-ID: Date: 20 Mar 91 08:45:26 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh. Lines: 35 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , stevep@cadence.com (Steve Peterson) writes: > While some texts > refer to the spirit as 'witnessing,' 'speaking,' or 'saying things, other texts > make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own. > (Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Psa. 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Acts 19:2-6; 21:4; > 28:25.) In order to blow your theory, all it takes is one reference where the Spirit does not speak through a person and does have a personal voice. You forgot Romans 8:26-27 from your list where the Spirit's *groanings* are clearly independent of the human involved: "In the same way the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will." This One that intercedes and groans independently on our behalf (when we do not know what to pray for, also has a *name*): "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". I highly recommend you look at John Walvoord's book titled "The Holy Spirit". Read the chapter on the person of the Holy Spirit. -- Kenneth J. Kutz Internet kutz@andy.bgsu.edu Systems Programmer BITNET KUTZ@ANDY University Computer Services UUCP ...!osu-cis!bgsuvax!kutz Bowling Green State Univ. US Mail 238 Math Science, BG OH 43403