Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: kenns@prism.cs.orst.edu (Kenn R. Stump) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Unforgiveable Sins Message-ID: Date: 22 Mar 91 03:56:51 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept Lines: 59 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In cman044@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (Eva) writes: > I have a question for this group that has been > bothering me for a while. I was taught in my religious > studies that certain sins were unforgivable -- murder, > suicide, etc. Can a person be forgiven for a past > suicide attempt, or is this person damned to hell? > Thanks Only unforgivable AFTER you have accepted Christ as Lord and Savior. Otherwise, how would the system of salvation work? consider: Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? Saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live? Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? Also, I can only paraphrase another OT scripture (related to me by a friend on the phone). "God does not rejoice when even one wicked person is condemned." God wants you to love Him. But this could be a sticky situation if you've known Christ before and have turned away and continued sinning. >18:13). The one issue here is a passage (Mat 12:32) that refers to a >sin against the Holy Spirit which is said to be unforgivable. There >is no concensus as to what this sin might be. But I think most >Christians take it to be an attitude whose very nature would prevent >someone from repenting in the first place. --clh] Mat. 12:32 ...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come. To me, it would appear that just speaking out against the Holy Spirit might be this one sin. If you didn't *know* that speaking against the Holy Spirit was a sin, then I believe that it would be forgiven. but that's me. I pesonally wouldn't do it, now that I know the result of such action. There is so much explained about God in scripture, but yet we people still cannot comprehend the full-ness of God. Some people say that the Holy spirit isn't a person. Check out for reference any of Benny Hinn's Weekly shows. the Holy Spirit doesn't seem to be just a symbol there. (For people's info, Benny Hinn's show, "Miracle Invasion", airs at 11:30 am weekdays on TBN. This is proof positive that the Holy Spirit is a person. If, however, you watch one of his shows and they show no "clip" from one of their average sunday evening services, then tune in the next day or so. Also, Benny Hinn can be caught teaching the scripture on Saturday at 4:00 pm on TBN (trinity Broadcasting Network) and Benny is quite knowledgeable about the Holy Spirit. ) Other people say that the trinity is ONE. (unitarian) and yet others claim trinitarian labels. I won't post my 'flavor' although it is obvious. 8) "Hey! Where do I turn in my soap box?" - kenns@jacobs.cs.orst.edu