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From: newton@ils.nwu.edu (David Newton)
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Subject: Re: 'Hackers'... Muha.
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Date: 11 Mar 91 03:32:47 GMT
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In article <524@spool.mu.edu>, gill@boris.mscs.mu.edu (Vijay (Ender)
Gill) writes:
> In article <10055@pitt.UUCP> anthony@cs.pitt.edu () writes:
> >hackers have better things to do then read this drivel.  They are 
> >probably out stealing my credit card numbers.
> That's crackers dude, not hackers.  This was a media perversion.

   On the otherhand, cracking is quite capable of being a good hack, i.e.
completely disassembling the EPPOMS on a POS terminal hooked up to a
TRS-80 Model 16 (this is, of course, a fabricated example.  No, really. 
Honest.  Truuuuust me.  Right Mr. Carter?  Muhahahaha.) and deciding
that modest re-writes would be consumerly amusing.
   And _some_ hacking into TRW (for instance) in extremely non-trivial.


   For the person that questioned my "dropping into a room filled with
lasers and people with guns" as being a hack: if picking a tricky lock
is a hack, then picking (at least) 5 of them is, and dropping down into
a room filled with people, some with guns, most certainly is.  (Oh,
those steam tunnels were so fun.)

   Was this better?

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