Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!ftpbox!mothost!motcid!ahlenius From: ahlenius@motcid.UUCP (Mark Ahlenius) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Shooting pigeons Message-ID: <6072@turquoise.UUCP> Date: 26 Mar 91 12:55:00 GMT References: <4754@syma.sussex.ac.uk> <93741@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL Lines: 46 loren@ingrid.llnl.gov (Loren Petrich) writes: some stuff deleted... > You might want to check out alternatives to traditional AI, >such as Neural Nets, Fuzzy Logic, and the kind of robotics that Brooks >has used in his mechanical insects. I make these plugs because these >are techniques that have produced _results_, and that's what one is >supposed to get, right? more stuff deleted... > To look for a Clay Pigeon, one need only look for something >that moves at a different speed from the background. This is easy to even more stuff deleted... All right, I for one am tired of this decoy constantly bashing AI in this group. If you are that opposed to what you consider AI techniques, why don't you spend your efforts in another group? Granted there were people in the AI arena that said that this technology would produce "human-like" machines but there are fanatics in every field that exists. I for one do not really believe that we shall see such machines come to existence, but then again we do let our imaginations run wild sometimes. So if you look at the big picture, yes for some 30 odd years we do not have these human-like machines - but we do have many other facets gleaned from the technology. Per previous net conversations many of the advances that "AI" techniques have brought to the party have been discussed. Many of these are in constant use today. And many neural net and fuzzy logic applications are being applied today as well. These are small individual techniques that each solve small portions of big problems. But I am perfectly satisfied applying such techniques to computer systems to help them act in a more intelligent fashion. And I will apply different techniques be they neural nets, fuzzy, expert systems, heuristic search, where ever the technology fits the problem best. -- =============== regards 'mark ============================================= Mark Ahlenius voice:(708)-632-5346 email: uunet!motcid!ahleniusm Motorola Inc. fax: (708)-632-2413 Arlington, Hts. IL, USA 60004