Xref: utzoo comp.ai.philosophy:772 comp.ai.neural-nets:3101 Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy,comp.ai.neural-nets Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!ssingh From: ssingh@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Sneaky Sanj ;-) Subject: Re: Continuous vs. discrete Message-ID: <1991Mar26.220005.29122@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo References: <91082.223501DOCTORJ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <1991Mar25.141743.21124@news.larc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1991 22:00:05 GMT Lines: 76 Here's something that was posted a while back on this subject. From ssingh Sun Feb 10 22:33:54 EST 1991 Article 1750 of comp.ai.neural-nets: Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Path: watserv1!ssingh >From: ssingh@watserv1.waterloo.edu (The Sanj-Machine aka Ice) Subject: continuous vs discrete values for weights Message-ID: <1991Feb2.001242.3473@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Sat, 2 Feb 91 00:12:42 GMT Lines: 18 Could someone tell me if there is any significant difference regarding the properties of neural networks with a finite set of states for connection strengths as opposed to continuous values. Which is more biologically accurate? I always thought that neurons assume one of a finite set of strengths. It is just that it is a very large set, so from our vantage point it appears continuous. I would like to explore the dynamical properties of nonlinear neural networks, so this is important. Thanks in advance for your time. -- "No one had the guts... until now!" $anjay $ingh Fire & "Ice" ssingh@watserv1.[u]waterloo.{edu|cdn}/[ca] ROBOTRON Hi-Score: 20 Million Points | A new level of (in)human throughput... "The human race is inefficient and therefore must be destroyed."-Eugene Jarvis From utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!ispd-newsserver!kodak!isctsse!gabber!rao Sun Feb 10 22:34:08 EST 1991 Article 1770 of comp.ai.neural-nets: Path: watserv1!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!ispd-newsserver!kodak!isctsse!gabber!rao >From: rao@gabber.kodak.com (Arun Rao) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: continuous vs discrete values for weights Message-ID: <1991Feb5.165813.10038@usenet@kadsma> Date: 5 Feb 91 16:58:13 GMT References: <1991Feb2.001242.3473@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Sender: usenet@usenet@kadsma (News Administrator) Reply-To: rao@gabber.kodak.com (Arun Rao) Organization: Image Electronics Center, Eastman Kodak Company Lines: 22 In article <1991Feb2.001242.3473@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, ssingh@watserv1.waterloo.edu (The Sanj-Machine aka Ice) writes: ... [stuff deleted ] |> |> I always thought that neurons assume one of a finite set of strengths. It |> is just that it is a very large set, so from our vantage point it |> appears continuous. ... [stuff deleted ] How large is very large ? It appears unlikely to me that neuron activation could possess as much resolution as (say) even a typical binary float representation. I don't remember having seen any numbers, but I would tend to think that if you need more than 8 bits of resolution to get a neural computational model to work, the biological plausibility of such a model is suspect. This is not to say, of course, that biological plausibility should be the acid test in evaluating models, especially application-oriented work. I'd be glad to hear about any experimental evidence that supports a considerably higher resolution in individual neuron activation. -Arun -- "No one had the guts... until now!" $anjay $ingh Fire & "Ice" ssingh@watserv1.[u]waterloo.{edu|cdn}/[ca] ROBOTRON Hi-Score: 20 Million Points | A new level of (in)human throughput... !blade_runner!terminator!terminator_II_judgement_day!watmath!watserv1!ssingh!