Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpda!hpcuhb!hpcuhe!linley From: linley@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Linley Gwennap) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Snake Message-ID: <32580004@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> Date: 25 Mar 91 22:54:36 GMT References: <69465@brunix.UUCP> Organization: PA-RISC Marketing Central Lines: 32 (Curtis Yarvin) asks: In today's New York Times, there is an article about the new HP Snake line. The story places the low-end Snake (720?) at 57 MIPS, 55 Specmarks for $12,000. This will obviously cramp the digestion of competing workstation makers. Does anyone know how these numbers were achieved? Are they misleading in any way? ---------- Yes, they are misleading. The performance on real applications (not toy benchmarks) is actually significantly *higher* due to the much larger caches (128KB I/256KB D) than competing systems. The CPU in the Model 720 is a traditional RISC implementation (no "super" stuff) that runs at 50 MHz using fairly standard 1.0 micron CMOS process. I could go into great detail, but basically the high performance is due to eliminating most pipeline interlocks and keeping the chip simple enough to allow the high clock frequency. The compilers have also been closely tuned to the hardware. The PA-RISC instruction set is rich enough to offer some instruction-level parallelism (e.g. COMPARE-AND- BRANCH, ADD-AND-BRANCH instructions) so that superscalar complexities are not needed. Yes, these system run UNIX (HP-UX) and most common applications, over 2000 total. All Series 700 systems are also source-code compatible with our popular Motorola-based workstations. By the way, if you need more performance, a 66 Mhz Model 730 is available for $20,000. --Linley Gwennap Hewlett-Packard