Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!uw-beaver!mit-eddie!andante!alice!jj From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, like it or not) Newsgroups: comp.compression Subject: Re: theoretical compression factor Message-ID: <20135@alice.att.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 91 16:50:12 EST References: <1991Mar25.054838.15588@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <1991Mar26.220519.1242@unislc.uucp> <1991Mar27.120829.26094@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, like it or not) Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals Lines: 19 Please, folks, you're confusing several issues here. First, the question of "how much can I compress X" must be qualified. If you have a historyless compression, you can compress up to the entropy ( sum of -p log p) bound, where p is the probability of each token. If you have history in your compression algorthm, you may (or may not) be able to do better, depending on the randomness of your token distribution (even given a fixed distribution of tokens). You must separate the two issues, and be sure to mention which (or what) bound you refer to. -- -------->From the pyrolagnic keyboard of jj@alice.att.com<-------- Copyright alice!jj 1991, all rights reserved, except transmission by USENET and like free facilities granted. Said permission is granted only for complete copies that include this notice. Use on pay-for-read services specifically disallowed.