Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!vsnyder From: vsnyder@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder) Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: Re: Throwing stones at standard committee (was Cheating on the types) Message-ID: <1991Mar26.005640.8282@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 26 Mar 91 00:56:40 GMT References: <1991Mar20.195732.15376@appmag.com> <10146@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <1991Mar22.202121.26272@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <8583@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Reply-To: vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Van Snyder) Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 33 In article <8583@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes: >In article <1991Mar22.202121.26272@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>, vsnyder@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder) writes: >> In article <8517@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes: >> >... These >> >are important considerations which the language designers do not seem >> >to be able to understand. > >> It's easy to sit back and throw stones. Have you sent ONE concrete proposal >> to X3J3? Have you attended a meeting? Have you corresponded with ANY member >> on a topic relating to the language standard? Have you asked your employer / >> sponsor to foot the bill for you to join the committee? >> >> If you don't like something about the way the language is designed, propose >> an alternative, don't insult the people who worked hard to get what we have. >[stuff deleted] >The real problem is that these standards committees feel that restrictive >standards are needed, instead of great flexibility, and that efficiency may >involve doing what is not even thought of at the time. I agree with that. I just don't like character assasination. Complain about what they're doing, or how they're doing it, not about their mental and moral abilities. >-- >Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399 >Phone: (317)494-6054 >hrubin@l.cc.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet) {purdue,pur-ee}!l.cc!hrubin(UUCP) -- vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder vsnyder@jato.uucp