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From: AMillar@cup.portal.com (Alan DI Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: UUPSI's new rules
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Date: 26 Mar 91 18:06:48 GMT
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>Ultimately, you have to ask, "What good is PSInet or ALTERnet or any of 
>these nets, if they don't let us handle 3rd party mail?"
>
>>now i understand that psi is saying you can only send AND receive mail for
>>your domain 

Wait a minute.  This is getting ludicrous.  I'm not a customer of
PSI, and I may not like some of the things I am hearing about them, 
but they aren't stupid.  You aren't paying just to talk to yourself.  
"Send AND receive mail for your domain" means "send mail from" and 
"receive mail for" your domain.

Picture the following:

   SiteA -----------+----------- SiteB
                    |
                   PSI
                   / \
                  /   \
                You    SiteC
                /
             SiteD

You are a customer of PSI.  So is SiteC.  SiteA and SiteB are "the outside
world".  SiteD is a another machine connected to just you.

What is implied above is that the only one you can talk to with the PSI 
"leaf contract" is SiteC.  Give me a break.  Of course you can talk to
SiteA and SiteB and _the_rest_of_the_world_.  What PSI is saying is that
they won't accept traffic through you between --==>> SiteD <<==-- and
the rest of the world.  If you want to send mail from SiteD to SiteA,
it has to be through another route than PSI.

Now, you still may not like *that* restriction, but let's not grossly
exagerate it.  With that said, I think I've had about enough of this
thread. :-)

- Alan Millar          flames to:  AMillar@cup.portal.com