Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!cs.umn.edu!talon.UCS.ORST.EDU!usenet!ogicse!intelhf!ichips!iwarp.intel.com!gargoyle!chinet!les From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: (In)security of passwords Keywords: security password Message-ID: <1991Mar26.191052.4620@chinet.chi.il.us> Date: 26 Mar 91 19:10:52 GMT Article-I.D.: chinet.1991Mar26.191052.4620 References: <1097@gtenmc.UUCP> Organization: Chinet - Chicago Public Access UNIX Lines: 22 In article <1097@gtenmc.UUCP> joe@gtenmc.UUCP (Joe Kelsey) writes: >GTE Corporate auditors are currently on a rampage around the company, >essentially forcing all computer system managers to implement password >expiration. I am personally convinced that the auditors are misguided and >believe that password expiration systems are actually *less* secure than other >forms of security. >My question is, are there any studies that can back up my feelings here. I can't help with a real reference, but every time I'm confronted with a "password expired" message I change it to a fairly predictable combination of four-letter words. Also, if you have uucp connections, expiring those passwords can do wonders for your neighbors phone bills as they persist with the retries on the failing logins. AT&T's '386 unix sets up passwords to expire by default, including those for uucp if you use their menu-driven administration. Hmmm, AT&T, now GTE... Is there a conspiracy here to waste time on the phone lines? Les Mikesell les@chinet.chi.il.us