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From: roth@pdntg1.paradyne.com (Mike Rothman)
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Subject: Re: Need help determining the job market alright!
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Date: 27 Mar 91 15:51:39 GMT
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In article <1991Mar27.092533.6991@topaz.ucq.edu.au> enzerinkp@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>In article <27664@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) writes
>
>> I am going to be looking for a job pretty soon as an MS-DOS programmer.  I
>> have a lot of experience, but unfortunately a lot of it is personal ...
>
>I really feel I should reply to this one. 
>[flame on]
>An MSDOS programmer hmm? Writen some fancy batch files in our time have we?
>Seriously, if you had any decent amount of experience you would be doing some
>part time work somewhere using your "personal" experience. It's been my
>"personal" experience that some people have a rather sheltered view of the REAL
>world as far the computer industry is concerned.
>
>> ... Unfortunately, the wonderful University of Florida's
>> abysmal CIS program concentrates on VAX Fortran/Pascal/Cobol which is of no
>> use to me in the "real" world.  They just STARTED teaching C this semester!
>
>Oh yes, those are useless languages aren't they? And a VAX! My what a worthless
>machine. Fortran has been the principle language used by Engineers for more
>years than I've been around. It is still used extensively. ANY pascal course
>will teach the basics of programming. Sure you can't switch on your handy BGI
>unit and develop none standard code, but we can't have everything. COBOL is
>probably the most used language in any business environment. Get the idea?
>
>Our college only started teaching 'C' this year, but then they have to go
>through a learning curve as well, and they also have to determine whether it
>has any large acceptance by the programming community.
>
>I suggest you do your studies like a good little fellow; swallow your big ego,
>and learn were programming started before you start making a career in
>programming.
>
>[flame off]
>
>I am a student in my final year of a Bachelor of Applied Science in Computing.
>
>-- 
>                  Hello, Hello. What's going on here then?
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>Peter Enzerink                                       ENZERINKP@TOPAZ.UCQ.EDU.AU
>University College of Central Queensland

Ditto on all counts......

Coming from an experienced programmer who IS in the real world.
(Of course though PM C C++ REXX etc are nice to learn, but not necessary to
be in the Comp. Sci world)

Hell you can be a contractor and get experience testing and make ridiculous
$$

Have fun

Just my $.02