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From: ted@kadabra.mitre.org (Ted Ede)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Does CAP support K-star?
Message-ID: <1991Mar27.012248.9413@linus.mitre.org>
Date: 27 Mar 91 01:22:48 GMT
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I'm trying to get CAP6.0 running on a sparc-2 with sunos 4.1.1.  We
have a large appletalk with > 150 zones and a dozen or two cisco
routers.  We have mainly FastPath 4s running K-Star 8.1.1 (beta).

Q: does CAP support K-Star and KIP or just KIP?

I built 6.0 with the three official patches using the default IPtalk
config.  After configuring, making includes, libs, and programs I
tried atlook with no success to talk to an fp4 on the same ether as me.

Here's the output:
% ./atlook -dldapisn
abInit: [ddp:   0.13, 18] starting
debugging LAP
debugging DDP
debugging ATP
debugging PAP
debugging INI
debugging ASP
debugging NBP
Looking for =:=@* ...
NBP SndNBP: sending
port for at-nbp is 202
NBP nbp_timeout: 3 tick timeout on -134219424, 3 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 3 tick timeout on -134219424, 2 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 3 tick timeout on -134219424, 1 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 3 tick timeout on -134219424, 0 remain

My atalk.local looks like:
13      18      K-Building
13      235     129.83.9.235

Q: The appletalk zone behind the fastpath (with the lw that I want to
get to) is "G033 2K100 Wing" and it is net number 11.  The K-Building
ethernet is net number 13.  I assumed that since I was on the ether, I
should use net 13.  Correct?

Q: what prevents anyone else from dynamically allocating node number 18?

Q: does atis have to run just to use atlook?  doc/install.ms says no.
CAP(8) says yes.  which is correct?


I then tried using the ethertalk version.  After building it, I deleted
atalk.local (didn't want any wrong defaults) and ran aarpd and low and
behold it gave me this etalk.local:

#
# EtherTalk dynamic configuration data
#
# Last update:  Tue Mar 26 19:20:34 1991
#
# Generated by native EtherTalk (Phase 1)
#
interface       "le0"
thisNet          0.13
thisNode        4
thisZone        "K-Building"
bridgeNet        0.13
bridgeNode      128
bridgeIP        0.0.0.0
nisNet           0.13
nisNode         4
asyncNet         0.00
asyncZone       ""

After running atis, atlook now works, and I discover that node 128 is
our cisco router.  And yes! I can get to my printer.

Q: should I punch in the IP address for the router in this file or
does it matter?

General comments:

I'd like to use IPtalk and run CAP on other platforms.  What was I
doing wrong ?

I think the install procedure is well crafted, but how about making it
easier to specify install destinations?  editing m4.setup after each
Configure is cumbersome.

The install.ms file could be embellished a bit to include more info
about setting up atalk.local. 

any help would be greatly appreciated,
ted

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