Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!tuvie!mike From: mike@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Michael K. Gschwind) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: X11R4 clients (Where are they!) Message-ID: <2389@tuvie.UUCP> Date: 26 Mar 91 08:19:27 GMT References: <9103211806.AA17987@hwcae.cfsat.honeywell.com> <509485af.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Sender: news@tuvie.UUCP Organization: Vienna University of Technology Lines: 39 In article <509485af.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> kumorek@apollo.HP.COM (James Kumorek) writes: >Perhaps I don;t understand your question, but X11R4 is a PSK that is installed >on top of SR10.3. SR10.3 has all the X clients that we support (like >xterm and such), >so you already have those. > >Am I missing the point? Yes and no. From what the release notes say, you are completely right. HPollo sells the X11R4 server, no more, no less (well a bit less. no supported old keyboards). From this point of view you are completely right. HPollo never promised anything more. BUT: X11R4 is normally though of as a bit more than just the X server. It consists of lots of clients and much contributed software (which come w/ Solbournes, for example). Now, when I (and it seems like most others on the net) think of X11R4 I don't think of the server, I think of the _whole_ distribution (#include ). It's always a neat idea to say so and so is not supported (the only HPollo supported clients are xterm and uwm, as far as I can remember). This is exactly the point the previous poster seems to have made! Seems like your customers want supported X clients (for R4, not R3, some clients have changed! (see xeyes)) and include files. >Jim Kumorek >Apollo Computer, Inc. - A subsidiary of Hewlett Packard ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Things have most certainly gotten worse since the suits took over!!!! >kumorek@apollo.hp.com bye, mike Michael K. Gschwind, Dept. of VLSI-Design, Vienna University of Technology mike@vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at 1-2-3-4 kick the lawsuits out the door mike@vlsivie.uucp 5-6-7-8 innovate don't litigate e182202@awituw01.bitnet 9-A-B-C interfaces should be free Voice: (++43).1.58801 8144 D-E-F-O look and feel has got to go! Fax: (++43).1.569697 #include