Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!crdgw1!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!dave From: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: Open Letter to an MS-DOS User Message-ID: <1991Mar29.020920.24480@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 29 Mar 91 02:09:20 GMT References: <6078@crystal9.UUCP> <1991Mar27.200613.4423@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> <8890@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Reply-To: dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov Distribution: comp Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab - Pasadena, CA Lines: 61 blissmer@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Kevin) writes: >In article <1991Mar27.200613.4423@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov writes: >>derosa@motcid.UUCP (John DeRosa) writes: >> >>Gee..I could if you tell me how much slower it runs, how much >>more you have to pay for disk storage, and how difficult it is >>to get things like a MIDI port and/or modems installed for it. >>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Falicies MS/DOS users believe. >In the real world, disk storage is not more expensive, but cheaper. If you >have a 40 meg on a mac and need another, buy it for $299 and hook it up. Costs $200 for 40 meg out here (MFM). $300 gets you 80 meg. >you want to do the same on a DOS clone, check your hard drive controller, MFM >or RLL?, any open ports?, no? Buy a new controller. Reconfigure your BIOS >setup. $299 seems pretty cheap, for plug and go. $399 for 105 megs. $499 >for a removable 45. No way can you add that to an existing DOS system for >that cheap unless your controller happens to be SCSI. Why, when I can get an ESDI 330MB disk for $750? Seriously, you can't beat my prices. I know how to hook these things up, I've hooked up a LOT of them, and I buy wholesale. I have it on good authority (VERY many people say this) that Mac prices are not as cheap as you are saying. You are the first person that I've heard quote these prices... would you please tell me WHERE you are getting those prices so I can inform the friends of mine that are unlucky...I mean fortunate enough to have Macs where to get these extremely low deals? >In the real world, a mac user opens the modem or midi box and plugs it in >(internal or external). NO DIP SWITCHES. I can't believe I'm hearing a DOS >user say that hardware add ons are easier than the mac. And it's cheap, $99 >for a modem and $79 for MIDI. $50 bucks for modem AND midi for PCs. 8) Please believe me...it's easier. Not from some need to fight about machine superiority but from experience...I've seen Mac MIDI add-ons take months. Damn near every complaint I get from Mac users is the difficulty of adding hardware and/or the comparative cost of Mac addons. These folks lose it when I tell them how much PC periphs cost! >Mac's are easier AND cheaper. Factor is real costs, like setup time, software >and OS maintainance differences and there is an even greater advantage to the >mac. Ok...Ok...I get that you think Macs are the best thing since sliced bread. I give you your opinion, and I'll stop arguing about it...I'll just keep on using my inferior and expensive machine to write my music and dream of the day when I can justify the expense of switching to the Mac so I can see the one true way. Us artists are downtrodden anyway, right? 8) -- Dave Hayes - dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov - ames!elroy!dxh People who think they know all are often insufferable. Rather like those who imagine that they know nothing.