Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!sumex-aim.stanford.edu!Info-Mac-Request From: Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (The Moderators) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest Subject: (RESEND) Info-Mac Digest V9 #72 Message-ID: Date: 28 Mar 91 22:09:52 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Info-Mac-Request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Organization: The Internet Lines: 766 Approved: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu 26-Mar-91 0:53:56-GMT,29993;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: by sumex-aim.stanford.edu (4.0/inc-1.0) id AA00364; Mon, 25 Mar 91 15:41:48 PST Full-Name: Info-Mac Moderator Message-Id: <9103252341.AA00364@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 91 15:41:36 PST From: The Moderators Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Subject: Info-Mac Digest V9 #72 To: info-mac-list@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Info-Mac Digest Mon, 25 Mar 91 Volume 9 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: [*] Mac/gnuucp 4.3 is available NOW (Shareware) 68040 Macs (TWO of them :-) Apple CD-ROM on a BBS Asynchronous LaserWriter driver (SL Laser) from Apple Auditory Demonstrations CD Stack Blank Icons Digest -> Message utility FONT CHARACTER NEEDED How to get TrueType Fonts in Sys 6.0.7 HyperCard Mac to GS Question about Tex Re : MacOberon Reimplementing someone else's programs (was: Laws in V9 #70) Serial LaserWriter Font Utility Sound Files Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest System 7.0b4 and DeskWriter The green Waterloo Script pods are everywhere! Two quick ones. Updating QUED/M problem resolved (2 msgs) User Logs for Mac virus abstracts? Works 2a Patch The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa, Lance Nakata, and Jon Pugh. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in /info-mac/help. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 91 22:27:19 -0500 From: odell@bu-it.bu.edu (Jim O'Dell) Subject: [*] Mac/gnuucp 4.3 is available NOW (Shareware) Mac/gnuucp from Fort Pond Research is a port of the GNU version of the UUCP protocol to the Macintosh. In addition to the UUCP transfer engine it also contains a HyperCard stack that is used for both reading and sending mail to other users. ==========Mac/gnuucp 4.3 Features========== Double Clickable documents that launch Mac/gnuucp to automatically call the named host. Each Mac/gnuucp has their own HyperCard stack for reading and replying to mail. Mac/gnuucp automatically forwards mail to a "Well Connected Host" Mac/gnuucp supports local mailing lists. The mailreader has an indexing capability that presents a summary of all messages in the current mail stack. Mac/gnuucp has been verified to communicate with Vax VMS gnuucp, SUN uucp, Quickmail, and ATT SVR3 uucp servers Mail messages are sent with standard RFC822 mail headers and dates. Mac/gnuucp works with all Hayes compatible modems ========================================== Registered users ($20) will be placed on the info-gnuucp mailing list to be informed of updates, enhancements as well as receiving communications regarding Mac/gnuucp >From other users. As with all GNU programs source code is available and has been distributed along with the binary form. If for any reason you want the sources and cannot obtain them Fort Pond Research will supply them for for a $20 copying fee. Fort Pond Research 15 Fort Pond Road Acton, MA 01720 mac-gnuucp@fpr.com [Archived as /info-mac/comm/gnuucp-43.hqx; 303K /info-mac/source/c/gnuucp-43.hqx; 507K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:20:04 EST From: Murph Sewall Subject: 68040 Macs (TWO of them :-) Boy was I pleased to see page 5 of this week's (3/18) InfoWorld! "Apple Aim High with 040 Tower" I'd heard about the Macintosh "tower" 68040 (designed primarily as a network server) with a list price around $15,000 (a little to large and just a tad to pricey for my den :-). What I've been hoping for is the OTHER "...desktop workstation which reportedly is the same size as the Macintosh IIci..." (with three NuBus slots) !!! Hurray! :-) List price about $10K which translates to roughly what the educational price of the IIfx was until it was lowered last week. "Certain other features, such as the amount of memory that will come with the systems, has yet to be determined. Apple is still showing the 68040 systems to user focus groups, in hopes of fine-tuning its final product sources said. However, the system will come with four memory bays capable of accomodating 1-, 4-, and 16-megabit DRAMS giving the system the capacity for as much as 64 megabytes of memory some sources said. Apple will also be changing the specifications of the NuBus slots in these 040 machines according to sources. NuBus boards designed to work in previous Macintoshes will work in the 040 slots and will reportedly run at 20 MHz..." The ASIC parallel integrated circuit chips presently in the IIfx are expected in the new models. "Although the new workstation is close to the IIfx in design and functionality, sources indicate that the 68040 machine will have a smaller footprint." Gosh, it sounds like those focus groups contain my kinda people :-) I think I can manage to live with something less than 64 MB of RAM (8 MB sounds about right). I hope it has a cache capability; it'd be a shame to have to inhibit that processor with wait states :-( I have found that hard disks are subject to the famous "iron law of demand" (the more you have, the more you need" :-) The article also says that the '040 Macs will have "multiple" SCSI ports (FIVE in the tower!). Somehow I wonder if that isn't just a little extravagent (put the $$$ into HD and RAM!!). Can't wait 'til August (after 13 May that is :-) /s Murph BITNET/Internet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 23:26:48 -0500 From: bda@uengr.calvin.edu (Bruce Abernethy) Subject: Apple CD-ROM on a BBS The Grand Rapids Mac Users Group has an Apple CD-ROM player which we wish to use as a peripheral device on our BBS. We are running an SE/30 and Second Sight 2.1 software. Has anybody done this? Any hints? We cannot seem to get this configuration to work. Bruce Abernethy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 14:49:05 EST From: Peter Galko Subject: Asynchronous LaserWriter driver (SL Laser) from Apple There have been a number of queries recently regarding Apple's serial LaserWriter driver (alias SL Laser) in the Info-mac digest. I am a long time user of this driver and have had several contacts with Apple over the product so I think I can shed some light on some aspects of the driver. First, in response to my pointing out some errors and omissions from the manual describing the driver's script for connection protocols, I was told that Apple had not written the driver themselves but had contracted the job out to another firm (whose name I forget) and that was the reason for the poor documentation. I believe that this driver grew out of the arrangement that Apple and Northern Telecom once had for some cooperation; this driver allowed the use of the Meridian SL-1 switch as a network for connecting Macs to printers (you could get the serial driver from Northern Telecom, and a user's manual from them as well). I was also told that because this was not an in-house product, Apple had no plans to update it. If they ever did want to update it they would do it in-house as a total rewrite (and hence it would be a significant effort). All this in incongruous with the claim in the APDA catalogue that Apple gives the product Class 1 support. Apple told me this was a mistake which they would correct in the APDA catalogue. Howver three issues of the catalogue have been issued since and it is still claimed that the driver is class 1 (class 3 would seem more appropriate to me). As to problems with driver's use, I have never encountered any. It is used throughout this Department on all kinds of machines and has been for the last two and a half years (we connect our Macs to Apple LaserWriter's over a SYTEK LAN which gives us RS232 type connections between ports on a demand basis; writing the connection script to handle the initial link setup and subsequent tear down was a relatively easy operation once I figured out the errors and ommissions in "Apple's" manual). Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: PTRPB@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 16:55:17 -0800 From: malcolm@apple.com Subject: Auditory Demonstrations CD Stack A hypercard stack to accompany the Acoustical Society of America's (ASA) Auditory Demonstration Audio Compact Disk is now available. The ASA has produced an absolutely wonderful CD that contains 39 very intriguing psychoacoustic demonstrations. The Auditory Demonstrations stack contains the text from the booklet and controls a CD-ROM drive to allow a reader to play each demonstration. The stack is available for anonymous FTP from apple.com. Look in /pub/malcolm/AuditoryDemo.cpt.Hqx You will need to run BinHex (4.0) and then you get a self extracting Compactor archive. Enjoy. Malcolm Slaney ATG Perception Group ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1991 21:28 GMT+1 From: FRICCI%ITOPOLI.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Blank Icons If you have problems with icons in your documents, try rebuilding the desktop. If this doesn't work, there may be some problems with the Bundle resources or bits. You can fix them with the Norton Uilities. When you say that this happens mostly to inits, that may be because of some init chooser you may have. Most init choosers change the type of the init to something else (usually 'xNIT' from 'INIT'), so that upon startup, they won't be recognized as inits and won't load. There is one exception, anyway: Init Picker. This one doesn't change the init or cdev files, so that they'll keep their icons; instead, it replaces the INIT 31 resource in the System file, the one that loads all the init files in the System Folder. The new INIT 31 will choose which inits to load, and which not to load. Hope this helps, Alberto Ricci. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:40:53 CST From: Your friendly neighbourhood Lab GTA Subject: Digest -> Message utility /* DigestToMsg.c I've been bemoaning the fact that Info-Mac comes in one big file on usenet ever since I started using usenet, and wishing I could have them in seperate message like mail or msg does. Just today, I suddenly realized what a silly goose I've been! It's a simple matter to turn the digest into a nice mail file, since the digest lists messages seperated by ------------------------------ so all I have to do is replace all the ------------------------------ with ^A^A^A^A ^A^A^A^A which is what the mail file uses to seperate messages, then simply use mail or msg to read it! So, method of operation (in UNIX): Extract this file into a file called digest2msg.c and delete the mail header. Extract the digest to News/Comp.sys.mac.digest (the default on trn) and say "yes" to "Extract in mail format?". % cc -o digest2msg digest2msg.c % digest2msg < News/Comp.sys.mac.digest > temp % msg temp (or, if you don't have msg, mail -f temp) Voila! Send problems/bug reports/gifts to: Ian Chai Internet: chai@cs.ukans.edu Bitnet: 2fntnougat@ukanvax.bitnet */ #include #define divider "------------------------------" main() { char buf[80]; int dlen = strlen(divider); while (gets(buf)) { if (strncmp(buf,divider,dlen)==0) { putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar('\n'); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar(1); putchar('\n'); } else printf("%s\n",buf); } } ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 12:33:31 EST From: ZAK@cu.nih.gov Subject: FONT CHARACTER NEEDED Font question: How do you get a solid line to print over the caps T and L (I *think* those were the letters he wanted...). An associate of mine needs to be able to do this in Word documents and in the middle of a line of text. Is there a font that has this overprinting character (like the accents grave, acute, umlat, etc.), or will he have to get Fontographer and create one of his own? Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 17:17:59 EST (Thu) From: joseph@marvin.cooper.edu (Joseph Giannuzzi) Subject: How to get TrueType Fonts in Sys 6.0.7 With the release of the Personal LaserWriter and StyleWriter, Apple has introduced TrueType Font technology. Users of System 6.0.7 can use TrueType by downloading two or three files from the Apple ftp site (apple.com). The files cannot be posted in the Sumex archives since they are part of Apple's System software, but I believe you can freely access them via Apple ftp. You need two files to get TrueType running on the screen, plus another file for the printer drivers. These files are located in /pub/dts/sw.license: truetype-fonts-1-0.hqx These are the currently released TrueType fonts. It includes Courier, Symbol, Times and Helvetica. It also includes a new Font D/A Mover version 4.1 that allows you to install the fonts in your System. stylewriter-install.hqx Yes, you absolutely need this file! It is the smallest available file that contains the TrueType INIT, which is of course essential to displaying TrueType fonts. mac-printing-tools.hqx These are the new printer drivers that allow the use of TrueType fonts. If I remember correctly, the installer that comes with the printing tools automatically installs the TrueType INIT in your System Folder. If not, simply drag the TrueType INIT in your System Folder. You must use the new Font D/A Mover to install the TrueType fonts. Finally reboot, and voila!!! >From my brief experience with TrueType, I have found that it is at least equal to ATM. BTW, both ATM and TrueType seem to coexist nicely. I have noticed that both make large font sizes look great, but don't perform as well with small sizes. For this reason I have choosen to leave 9, 10 & 12 point sizes installed in my System, and replace the 14, 18, 24 & larger points with the TrueType font. This has worked for me nicely. Joe Giannuzzi - Peppermint Park joseph@marvin.cooper.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:58:07 MST From: wieser@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Bernhard Wieser) Subject: HyperCard Mac to GS Does anyone know the procedure of converting Mac HyperCard stacks to the GS? I wrote a stack with some XFCNs on the Mac I'd like to port to a friends GS, but know absolutely nothing about the GS. One of the XFCNs returns the user's chooser name. Please e-mail me any info. Thanks. Bernie Wieser (finger wieser@cpsc.ucalgary.ca if you really want a .sig) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 12:08:55 EST From: perez@itd.nrl.navy.mil Subject: Question about Tex Hello, Where can I order any one of the commercial Tex packages for the Mac? I know there are at least two (Textures, and MacTex) availables, but I don't know the companies that make them. Also, is there a clear choice as to which one is the best? I am not a Tex user myself, so please don't get down into much details. This is for my supervisor. Please reply to me directly and I will summarize for the net. Manuel A. Perez Naval Research Lab perez@itd.nrl.navy.mil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 02:53:11 EST From: Jdr%RCN.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Re : MacOberon Slawo Janotta asks : > Could anybody post it (MacOberon) to the archive ... [stuff deleted] < MacOberon is in the directory /pub/ArchiveVol1/macOberon on "apple.com". A 68020- or 68030-based Mac is required, according to the readme file. John D. Rogers jdr@rcn.bitnet Computer Lab Aide, Worc. State College Worcester, MA 01602 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 17:24:09 EST From: leban@par3.cs.umass.edu (Bruce Leban) Subject: Reimplementing someone else's programs (was: Laws in V9 #70) > >Would writing shareware based completely on a commercial idea and then > >sending around ASKING for money for it (not requiring) be considered > >illegal plagerism? Even if the shareware author is in a different country > > Knut, a lot depends on what you propose, but the short answer is Yes its > illegal because its not the code alone (or the windowing, etc) that is > protected, but the IDEAS which are protected. Ideas which are not protected Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I do know the above reponse is wrong. Yes, this is info-mac, not info-law, so I'll keep my response concise. There are two forms of intellectual property protection: copyrights and patents. Copyrights 1) protect the EXPRESSION of an idea 2) automatic -- any original or derivative work can be copyrighted (in the US, you don't even need to register a copyright just put a copyright notice on the work) 3) international conventions provide for reciprocity of copyright protection 4) in the US, a copyright lasts your lifetime plus 50 years (or 75 years for corporate "authors") Patents 1) protect the IDEA itself 2) you have to apply for it and prove your idea is worth a patent; in the US, that means that it's new, useful and non-obvious. 3) the patent applies only in the country of issue 4) in the US, a patent lasts at most 17 years Anything which is not copyrighted or patented is in the public domain. Expired copyrights and patents also enter the public domain. The look-and-feel of a program may be an IDEA or the EXPRESSION of an idea or may not be protectable at all. This is still in the courts because Congress hasn't dealt with it properly. As far as I know, no court has ruled on look-and-feel across national boundaries. If you copy my program to the last detail, it therefore MAY be a violation of my copyright. (Example: Lotus 1-2-3 clones.) If you copy the functionality of my program but neither the code nor the interface, it is NOT a violation UNLESS I have patents covering the program. (Example: Apple has a patent on its region computing algorithms. Any Mac clone has to implement regions differently.) Note that none of this has anything to do with whether or not you CHARGE for your program. It's just as illegal to give away a oopy of a copyrighted work as it is to sell it. I have not commented on whether or not it's ethical to do this. That's for you to decide. --- Bruce Leban@cs.umass.edu @amherst.mass.usa.earth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 14:52:00 EST From: Peter Galko Subject: Serial LaserWriter Font Utility Does anyone out there know of a utility which will allow fonts to be downloaded to an Apple LaserWriter II NTX's disk drive over a serial link (or could tell me even the appropriate PostScript code to initialize the drive, and to copy a downloaded font to the drive for permanent storage). Altsys's Download 1.3 will allow me to download fonts to my LaserWriter over a serial link with the asynchronous LaserWriter driver, but it knows nothing about the possible existence of drives connected to a LaserWriter. Thus I can download fonts to a LW for use until the next restart, but not permanently. I have tried Apple's LaserWriter Font Utility 6.1, but it complains that Apple's asynchronous LaserWriter driver is "not a PostScript LaserWriter driver"!? (a case of Apple not maintaining compatibility with their products?); futhermore I suspect that the Font Utility will assume I have a Appletalk connection to the LaserWriter which isn't the case here. Pointers to appropriate documentation would be nice... Prof. Peter Galko E-mail: PTRPB@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 91 15:43:09 CST From: THE GAR Subject: Sound Files I have a question regarding MAC sound files. Can someone tell me what "format" SOUND MASTER can read? I have got several sound files from MACSERVE at PUCC, and I can't seem to play them. I have had no problem with the Graphics or Executables that I have received, but for some reason can't get the sound to work. I got the Sound Converter Utilities, but I don't know what format I need, nor do I know what format the files are in! Thanks for any assistance. -- Gary Warner Samford University Computer Services ------------------------------ Date: 21 Mar 91 20:17:42 GMT From: Alex Chaffee Subject: Submission for comp-sys-mac-digest Path: reed!chaffee >From: chaffee@reed.UUCP (Alex Chaffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest Subject: Re: FONT -> NFNT Message-ID: <16241@reed.UUCP> Date: 21 Mar 91 20:17:37 GMT References: <9103202321.AA18935@sumex-aim.stanford.edu_ <9103190020.AA26972@sumex-aim.stanford.edu_ Distribution: world Organization: Reed College, Portland OR Lines: 29 _ I see there is a utility that turns FONTs to NFNTs, and that there are _ many FONT editors (including ResEdit, in a pinch); but ResEdit cannot edit _ an NFNT. How *DO* I edit one? _ Any help appreciated... thanks. Matt Neuburg = neuburg@campus.swarthmore.edu _ In (I believe) Infomac #68, somebody mentioned a utility that would allow _ FONT resources to be converted to NFNT resources. I am assuming that this _ would mean converting a bitmap font to a TrueType-compatible font (if I am _ wrong, please correct me). _ If there is such a utility, could somebody send me some info on it? Is _ it Freeware/Shareware/commercial, etc? _ Also, if there is any such beast out there as an NFNT editor out there, _ could somebody also give me a pointer to it? _ Thanx a lot. Please mail directly to me, etc. etc. If I'm not mistaken, the format of NFNTs is *identical* to the format for FONTs. Only the name has changed. The important thing is the presence of FOND, or font family, resources. FONDs describe which NFNTs make up a typeface in which styles. So to edit NFNTs, just use ResEdit to open the NFNT as a FONT. (Perhaps ResEdit 1.2 lets you just open up NFNTs directly.) This has nothing to whatsoever do with TrueType. -- Alex Chaffee chaffee@reed.bitnet Reed College, Portland OR 97202 ____________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 18:00:10 EST From: mjkobb@media-lab.media.mit.edu Subject: System 7.0b4 and DeskWriter Greetings, Well, I'm beta-testing 7.0b4, and I'm having trouble with the DeskWriter. Whenever I print something relatively long, I get an error "Datacomm bufer overflow. No DTR handshaking." Anybody have any idea how to fix this? Is there a new driver from HP (I'm using 2.0)? Thanks! --Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 10:51:31 EST From: gall@nexus.yorku.ca (Norm Gall) Subject: The green Waterloo Script pods are everywhere! But the most important question is.... is there a utility to convert Microsoft RTF to either Waterloo SCRIPT or TeX???? York's laser printers don't have postscript modules.... and I wouldn't write my name in SCRIPT.... norm gall york university philosophy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 20:09:27 EST From: Murph Sewall Subject: Two quick ones. On Wed, 20 Mar 1991 16:20:28 EST you said: >1) With an LC and A IISI what stuff, i.e. hardware and software do you >need to *run* not just read, Apple IIe software. Does Apple file exchange >just read ProDos--or can it run it. Does my friend need a new board? The //e card is supposed to be available for the LC *any day now* AFE can *only* read/write ProDOS files, it *cannot* execute any program. The //e card *only* works with an LC :-( More than one credible source (someone who *should* know) answers the objection that the //e card will NOT run IIgs software with "we're working on that" (there is a IIgs card in beta, but Apple has beta tested hardware before that they've elected not to market). There is a program (100% software solution) name ][ in a Mac that will run *some* //e software in nearly any Mac (at about //e speed on a IIsi). No color, no graphics, no copy protected (no modem on a IIci). I own four (count 'em) Apple II's, but after 7 months with a Mac it's been a couple of months since I've even turned a //e on (I do still need a //e connected to a daisy wheel printer from time to time to type an Express Mail label (I haven't figured out how to get a laser printer to imprint the 2nd through 4th copy of the Post Office form :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 10:06:18 CST From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein) Subject: Updating QUED/M problem resolved As several people indicated to me, the PUP program works ONLY with the original QUED/M file as distributed by Paragon. Since I am a legal owner, I just had to pull out my original disk to do the upgrade. Too bad that this procedure makes me loose my custom preferences. I do not consider this to be a friendly way of making an upgrade. Paragon people, are you listening? I would also prefer that PUP does let me select any QUED/M file to upgrade, then check the modification date or whatever and if that copy can't be upgraded for whatever reason, then display an informative dialog telling me why this copy can't be upgraded. Wouldn't this be more friendly??? PUP should also let me copy my preference setting from any QUED/M file to the newly updated one. Does anybody know whether Paragon people plan any major face uplift for QUED? I like many of its features but it annoys me quite often by not conforming to standards. The Open dialog, cmd-W for save, not cmd-A for select all, and a few others are most annoying. If I had spare money I would change to Preditor or something else. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 10:06:18 CST From: GA0095%SIUCVMB.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Robert J. Brenstein) Subject: Updating QUED/M problem resolved As several people indicated to me, the PUP program works ONLY with the original QUED/M file as distributed by Paragon. Since I am a legal owner, I just had to pull out my original disk to do the upgrade. Too bad that this procedure makes me loose my custom preferences. I do not consider this to be a friendly way of making an upgrade. Paragon people, are you listening? I would also prefer that PUP does let me select any QUED/M file to upgrade, then check the modification date or whatever and if that copy can't be upgraded for whatever reason, then display an informative dialog telling me why this copy can't be upgraded. Wouldn't this be more friendly??? PUP should also let me copy my preference setting from any QUED/M file to the newly updated one. Does anybody know whether Paragon people plan any major face uplift for QUED? I like many of its features but it annoys me quite often by not conforming to standards. The Open dialog, cmd-W for save, not cmd-A for select all, and a few others are most annoying. If I had spare money I would change to Preditor or something else. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 15:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas James Menner, Jr." Subject: User Logs for Mac I'm interested in keeping track of usage of our Macintoshes, in particular knowing who uses the machine when. I can do this if I use a dedicated network like AppleShare, but I wanted to see if there was any less expensive solution (that didn't involve having to buy a dedicated server). The solution doesn't have to be a network -- it just needs to somehow record the who and when of machine usage. Any pointers or suggestions would be most appreciated. tom menner tm11@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 91 17:34:19 -0900 From: "ROY D THORP" Subject: virus abstracts? Can anyone help me find out about virus' and virus control as it pertains to the Mac. I need information on how they work, what specifically they attack and common solutions to the problem. I would like information in abstract or digest form. I would like to also hear of some ftp sites that would contain the information that I need. If you can help me, and I sincerely hope that you can, please send me a message to the address below. Thank you in advance. Roy Thorp axrdt@acad2a.anc.alaska.edu (bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 09:40 MST From: Subject: Works 2a Patch I received a patch from Microsoft Customer Service that is labeled as 2.0e. This patch supposedly fixes a problem the software has running on the new Mac models (Classic, LC, and SI). I can't state whether or not this patch fixes the problem because none of our new machines have a problem running the software. Microsoft said there is nothing new in the software and if is working fine don't fix it. Also, I receive the same thing for Microsoft Word 4.0 but again I'm not seeing any problems running the software on the new Macs. Caren Williams Computer Services Northern AZ Univ. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 91 11:06:19 EST From: danny@utkux1.utk.edu (Danny McCampbell) >Where is the sound to snd converter that used to be in the archives under >/sound/program? I need it desperately. Could someone please direct me to >it or another program which does the same thing. Thanks > >Danny (danny@utkux1.utk.edu) > > > ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************