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From: lim@iris.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Pop-up menu CDEF
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Date: 25 Mar 91 10:15:10 GMT
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In article <50729@apple.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) writes:
>In article <1991Mar22.002149.6359@d.cs.okstate.edu> norman@d.cs.okstate.edu (Norman Graham) writes:
>>  3) Should you get the CDEF from the CommToolbox or from System 7.0b4?
>>     If from System 7.0b4, is it still CDEF 63?
>>
>The problem is that CDEF 63 in system 7.0 requires modifications to the
>standard MDEF to properly do things.  
>
>Including CDEF 63 from CommToolbox 1.0 in your application is possibly a
>violation of the license agreement.  But more importantly, if you include
>the popup in your application you cannot use the 7.0 versioin of the popup
>and as Steve says it will hose up standard file under 7.0 (which now
>uses the popup cdef)
>
>I'm not sure what the right solution is going to be.  I've tried to
>get the CommToolbox 1.0 version of CDEF 63 into system 6.0.x to no
>avail.  Suggestions anyone?

How about letting the Human Interface Group freely distribute the CommToolbox
CDEF 63 for use only in System 6.0.x?  They already do that for the Movable
Modal WDEF.  As they suggest, I use the WDEF specifically for System 6.0.x
and the real WDEF in System 7.0.  It'd be great to be able do the same for
popups since it will be built into 7.0.

BTW, I haven't actually seen either the CommToolbox or 7.0 popups but my
impression is that CommToolbox popups don't have those down arrows while the
7.0 ones do.  If true, this inconsistency might make it hard to do what I
suggest above.

Popups have got to be the most non-conforming item in existence.  I can
honestly say I have NEVER seen a popup that behaves well and conforms
reasonably to the current HIN.  (I sure hope 7.0 is better.)

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