Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!lth.se!newsuser From: magnus%thep.lu.se@Urd.lth.se (Magnus Olsson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin Subject: Re: Kmem security (was: Re: How do you make your UNIX crash ???) Message-ID: <1991Mar26.113637.24279@lth.se> Date: 26 Mar 91 11:36:37 GMT References: <513@bria> <1991Mar12.132003.27383@cs.widener.edu> <1991Mar18.153201.23325@lth.se> <601@minya.UUCP> Sender: newsuser@lth.se (LTH network news server) Reply-To: magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson) Organization: Theoretical Physics, Lund university, Sweden Lines: 27 In article <601@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers) writes: >In article <1991Mar18.153201.23325@lth.se>, magnus%thep.lu.se@Urd.lth.se (Magnus Olsson) writes: >> That doesn't mean, of course, that you can't get passwords from /dev/kmem - >> login has to keep the entered password somewhere before it encrypts it! > >Sorry, but this is bogus. > >True, login has to keep the password somewhere, but that somewhere isn't >in /dev/kmem; it is in login's address space. > >What is true is that it has to get it from somewhere, and it does that via >a read(), meaning that the somewhere it gets it from is inside /dev/kmem. > >[Picky, picky, picky! ;-] To be *really* picky, I didn't say that login *did* keep passwords in /dev/kmem, but only that it wasn't necessarily true that it didn't. :-) Seriously, I thought the entire virtual memory of the machine was accessible through /dev/kmem. Why isn't login's address space? Magnus Olsson | \e+ /_ Dept. of Theoretical Physics | \ Z / q University of Lund, Sweden | >----< Internet: magnus@thep.lu.se | / \===== g Bitnet: THEPMO@SELDC52 | /e- \q