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From: smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith)
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Subject: Re: Hacking and "Amateurism"
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Date: 28 Mar 91 14:38:52 GMT
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mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. Ranum) writes:

>	This dictionary-attack newbie stuff is about IBM-PC BBS-weenie
>level. Sure, it works, but it's nauseatingly amateurish.
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^
Ugh. This type of comment is nauseatingly amateurish. And rude. I don't
like comments that choke off honest questions.

Dictionary attacks may lack "glamour" somehow, but they _are_ effective
on many systems. And it's clear from other comments in this thread that
they aren't as well understood as security types might wish.