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From: doner@henri.ucsb.edu (John Doner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: give me solid facts: Windows/Mac
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Date: 28 Mar 91 17:36:23 GMT
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In article <1991Mar28.025502.10913@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr) writes:
>dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>>Great! Ok...now what about ADVANCED proficiency...doing complex tasks?
>>
>>This concept is what I am currently harping on.
...
>You are a computer professional, you say, and you find the Mac lacking?
>Aha, that's a different story. Why don't you find a good Unix box and do
>your stuff on it? I don't think anyone here is claiming that Mac is so
>great that the Alliants, Suns, Coherents and maybe even Crays should run
>away and go out of business... As you see from the address, I do use other
>machines when I need them. If a complex formatting task is too difficult to
>do on a Mac, I just ftp it elsewhere, use grep or something, and get it
>back.
>Sure, the Mac could use some gadget with which you could use line commands,
>batch processing, manipulate directories en masse, do core dumps at a
>keystroke, etc. etc... Rings a bell? You guessed right: A/UX. Fortunately,

Most of the time, I find the Mac's interface pleasing and convenient.
There are some situations, however, where it's nice to be able to run
a script or use a command line interface for some other reason.  So I
use MPW.  That offers everything you can want from a cli, and does it
from within a gui context. You don't need to spring for A/UX, MPW can
be had for $150, and even less if you get it bundled with some other
product. I use Multifinder, and keep MPW running in one partition.

Another good combination I've used involves an X-windows terminal
running emacs in one window and separate shells in others.  But I
still prefer my Mac.

This crap about how "professionals" need only a cli is ridiculous; and
the dogmatic attitudes expressed by some in this discussion (not you,
Eric) serve mainly to show just how UNprofessional they are.

(WHY can't I resist getting involved in these GUI vs.  CLI flame
wars??)
John E. Doner	doner@henri.ucsb.edu	(805)893-3941
Dept. Mathematics, UCSB, Santa Barbara, CA 93106