Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!ucdavis!csusac!unify!openlook!openlook-request From: smarks@Eng.Sun.COM (Stuart Marks) Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: Misc Openwindows 2.0 Questions Message-ID: Date: 26 Mar 91 21:35:20 GMT Lines: 57 There are a bunch of different problems being intermixed here, so I'll try to separate them. There are indeed some problems with OpenWindows, but not all bad behavior is caused by them. => Gee - I dont understand how you folks who have gotten the client => software from MIT X11R4 got some of it to work. When I try to run => the makes there are missing libraries, header files, etc. This is probably because we don't ship the Athena widget set (libXaw) with OpenWindows. The Athena widgets are supported by MIT, and your best bet is to use the X11R4 versions. => When I try => to run xman I get streams of msgs about widget problems Grumble. This is caused by what some people (including me) consider to be a misfeature. When we were going to ship OpenWindows 2.0, we took the latest version of Xt from MIT (up to patch level 9, I think), and compiled and shipped it. Unfortunately, the next patch changed the Xt revision number. So, if you compiled something using a recent patch of X11R4, and ran it with OpenWindows, you'd get a bunch of error messages complaining about a version mismatch. You can probably replace the OpenWindows version of libXt with the X11R4 versions. => and a window => which has only one button highlighted - the quit button. When I tried => xpostit I got similar behaviour. This is probably because the programs in question can't find their app-defaults files. Make sure that app-defaults files are installed properly in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults, or set up the XFILESEARCHPATH environment variable so that the programs can find them. If, for example, you've installed programs in /usr/local (and their app-defaults files in /usr/local/lib/app-defaults), you should set up your XFILESEARCHPATH environment variable to contain /usr/local/lib/%T/%N%S For an explanation of the %-sequences, see p. 860 of Asente & Swick, "The X Window System Toolkit". Further, a number of the games, like Xtrek, refuse to accept keyboard input. Mouse button input works just fine. This is a bug in xtrek. Programs need to set the input "hints" in order to work properly under many window managers, and xtrek doesn't do this. Some popular window managers (such as twm) typically leave the focus in PointerRoot mode, so applications like xtrek seem to "work". However, if you run them under other window managers (like olwm or mwm, the Motif window manager), they will have problems accepting the input focus. s'marks Stuart W. Marks ARPA: smarks@eng.sun.com Windows & Graphics Software UUCP: sun!smarks Sun Microsystems, Inc.