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From: abraham@hugin.dk (Per Abrahamsen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Misc OpenWindows 2.0 questions
Message-ID: <q86uwoz@openlook.Unify.Com>
Date: 22 Mar 91 17:02:07 GMT
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   From: smart@manta.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Robert Smart)
   Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look

   In article <0idvlp3@openlook.Unify.Com>  (Doug Becker) writes:
   >
   >No.  Xlib and the server are two separate entities, and you're looking at
   >Xlib.  The OW 2.0 server does not support SHAPE.
   >

   I think I've worked out at last that Openwindows is not up to running
   standard X11 programs. I reckon I should be able to get them for
   misleading advertising.

Since SHAPE is not part of X11 (that's what extension means) you won't
win that one.  Some programs will not run without some bugs or
peculiarities of the MIT X11R4 implementation, but that is hardly
Sun's fault.  You should instead flame them for having such a slow,
memory wasting, and generally buggy server.

   Be that as it may, has anyone worked out how to
   run the applications that come with Openwindows under tvtwm and the
   X11R4 server?

Why?  The deskset applications are easy to learn for beginners, and
cute too, but generally less useful than the PD equivalents.  If you
want them because they are easy for beginners, you probably also want
olwm.

Deskset + olwm + X11R4 works fine here.