Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!apple!veritas!amdcad!amdcad!military From: brownp@cs.unc.edu (Peter Brown) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Armored Gun System Message-ID: <1991Mar26.031627.2639@amd.com> Date: 26 Mar 91 03:16:27 GMT Sender: military@amd.com Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Lines: 30 Approved: military@amd.com From: brownp@cs.unc.edu (Peter Brown) davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown) asked for an ID of the armored vehicle on pages 28-29 of the March 18th _Newsweek_. davisp@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Palmer Davis) suggested an MT-LB. I am pretty sure that the vehicle is an ex-T-62. For the ex part, note the scorch marks to the right of the soldier (of course, if I'm right about the T-62, the absent turret is another subtle hint). Remember, since we're only seeing one end of the vehicle (and a little of the left side), much of the rest could be a jumble of scrap steel without it showing in the photo. For the T-62 part, compare the photo of a live Iraqi T-62 in the pullout ("Saddam's War Machine") between pages 42 and 43 of the February 18th _Newsweek_; the hulls are (as far as I can see) identical. I don't see enough room between the top of the tracks and the top of the hull for it to be an MT-LB (although I'm using the picture of the ZSU-23-4 on the aforementioned pullout for that judgement, so it's possible I'm full of some appropriate untruthful substance). It is also possible, of course, that the Soviets used the T-62 chassis for other vehicles (I don't know); if so, this could be one such. Hope that helps, --Peter Brown (brownp@cs.unc.edu)