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From: x35147d3@usma8.usma.edu (Bergman Charles CDT)
Newsgroups: sci.military
Subject: Re: Stealth Boats
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Date: 27 Mar 91 05:15:19 GMT
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From: x35147d3@usma8.usma.edu (Bergman Charles CDT)

Why waste your time with surface boats?

I once heard from a submariner, "There are only two types of ships;
                                  submarines and targets!"

The rest of the world is going to figure out that a few diesel-electric
subs can easily mess up the operations of an entire U.S. surface fleet.
And mess up supply from the States.

The Germans are working on new conventional subs that are more quite and
cheaper then our nuclear ones.  Soon they'll export those and we'll have a
trillion dollar ineffective surface navy!

          All Iraq needed was a a small sub fleet and we would have been
sucking all across the Atlantic.  There are very effective cheap subs
available, like the ones Israel is buying from Germany, and soon they'll be all
over the world.   Look at the North Korean Navy -- subs can keep us from
resupplying the South in an invasion or from any Inchon landing.
     All you need is a Submarine navy and a well organized mine laying
operation and you can put surface fleets out!  Mines are cheap and take time to
clear.  They worked in Haiphong Harbor and worked in the Persian Gulf (Marines
didn't land).  We need surface ships to protect transportation from air and to
project air power where friendly air fields aren't available, but lets hope
that subs don't get in the hands of Hussein types cause then it won't work.
Just a thought.

P.S. About fast attack surface missile boats, remember the Libyian ones??
Harpoons took care of those!  Now if they had some subs....

	[Wheee!  Feel free to answer but remember, NO flames on
	sci.military and keep the technical content high.  I was
	wondering when we'd see the "Aircraft Carriers are obsolete"
	thread in one form or another. -- CDR]

Charles Bergman
CDT, USMA
x35147d3@usma8.usma.edu