Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ora!ambar From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Scholarly objective evaluations of AA Message-ID: Date: 28 Mar 91 03:23:25 GMT References: 667506522@lime.cs.duke.edu> <1991Mar8.195502.12099@ora.com> <668543857@lear.cs.duke.edu> Sender: ambar@ora.com (Jean Marie Diaz) Organization: Natural Language Incorporated Lines: 35 Approved: ambar@ora.com In article <668543857@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes: #I would agree with Lurkette that scholarly studies are probably more #accurate than the perceptions of ethnic males; $I wonder what you will say after "scholarly studies" will tell you $that women are better off when they have to sit at home and raise $kids... In article <1991Mar8.195502.12099@ora.com> (Jeanette Dravk) writes: >Hmm... so I guess *men* would be better off staying at home raising the >kids too, right? So why don't we _all_ just sit at home and watch the >little ones crawl around? Two women claimed that affirmative action for women is good for men, and used some studies to justify their position. Would you, or them, or the rest of net.feminists will think about reversing the argument and claiming that affirmative action for "white ethnic males" will be good for a woman? Sure, I'll think about it. So, what would an AA program for men be like? The point for minorities is to hire them "fairly," generally by proportion of the population, right? Okay, so if we instituted a program to hire white ethnic males in the same proportions as they appear in the population, what would happen? ($think, $think) Hey! There will be more jobs for women, since less men will be hired! Wow! It would benefit women! I guess that being a woman who is looking for revenge and/or a feminist means that you can reverse the sexes only in one half of the examples... *laugh*...nah, guess again. Muffy