Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!ora!ambar From: lippin@lipton.berkeley.edu (The Apathist) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Chess (Was: Sexism) Message-ID: <1991Mar16.023153.20594@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 28 Mar 91 03:23:35 GMT References: <560@clbull.cl.bull.fr> Sender: ambar@ora.com (Jean Marie Diaz) Reply-To: lippin@math.berkeley.edu Organization: Authorized Service, Incorporated Lines: 30 Approved: ambar@ora.com Recently rao@cl.bull.fr (Srinivasam Rao) wrote: > Why don't the members of the "weaker" sex prove themselves by > competing with men in the World Chess Championship and becoming the > world champion. Atleast here, they cannot claim any disadvantage of > physical or mental "weakness" can they. This relates to a question I've pondered: there are certain male-dominated fields, such as programming and chess, in which a form of mastery is attained by starting young and practicing obsessively through adolescence. (I'm thinking of hackers in particular here.) Few people, if any, develop the same kind of skill later in life, although they may master the field through a different approach (say, through learning computer science.) Are there fields in which women achieve mastery in this way? Presumably I would have ignored them back when I knew more adolescent girls -- I was too busy being obsessed with male-dominated things. Or are girls spared these obsessions, perhaps through earlier adolescence or greater social skills? In either case, this may explain why the spread of feminism hasn't caused a great increase in the number of female chess masters -- few women have given feminism a great deal of thought at age twelve. --Tom Lippincott lippin@math.berkeley.edu "In heaven people are more understanding about this than down here." --Lynda Barry