Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ukma!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: awmurray@eos.ncsu.edu Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Sexism in the church?? (was: Re: Gay Ordination) Message-ID: Date: 27 Mar 91 04:29:20 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Lines: 46 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu [I apologize that this posting is missing some context. The original one I got from him said that he didn't see sex discrimination in the Church, and then cited one of the well-known scripture passages saying that women were not to be allowed to speak. I wasn't sure whether he was a fundamentalist being sarcastic about how the Church had "improved" on the Bible or what. This is in response to my request for a more unambiguous posting. --clh] My point was simply this: I didn't see any sex discrimination in the Church. There is, however, inherent sex discrimination in the Bible. I think your friend is right about this. Those quotes I used are to spell it out: "Women suck". This, of course, from all-wise God....NOT FROM ME!!! I don't feel that women shouldn't dress fancy or wear jewelry or should be silent, etc. ...but Christ did. And God spoke though Christ... I also commented on the fact that Christians (as well as people in general) seem to have evolved beyond Christ's teachings in this area (of life) as well as others. My point: if ice melts, it is called water; if a puppy grows up, call it a dog. Why then not follow suit in the area of religion? When a religion no longer practices the doctrines of its creators, don't continue to call it 'Christianity'. If you want to make a religion that doesn't follow your present doctrines...then do so. But don't call it Christianity. If Christ's philosophy/teachings are not good enough for you to follow, don't ignore some and follow the rest! Simply look elsewhere...beyond Christianity. Make your own rules like I do. Christians do it anyway...and then call themselves Christians. Go figure. I think Christianity is an out-moded philosophy that is INTENTIONALLY designed so that NO human can follow it correctly. In short, there is no God. Even Christians are evolving beyond Christ's teachings...because his teachings contradict human nature. Your comments will be appreciated. Thank you for responding. --alan "Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do." st.john 8:44 ps I hope this doesn't contain too many errors, don't have time to proofread. If it is still incoherent, I promise to take time to make it coherent next time.