Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU!elaine18.Stanford.EDU!dhinds From: dhinds@elaine18.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: $/CPUmark is a worthless measure Message-ID: <1991Apr3.030504.13438@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: 3 Apr 91 03:05:04 GMT References: <2004@kuling.UUCP> <32580014@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> <1991Apr3.010831.3603@ico.isc.com> Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Organization: Stanford University - AIR Lines: 29 In article <1991Apr3.010831.3603@ico.isc.com> rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) writes: >$/SPECmark, or $/any-CPU-benchmark, is about as useful for comparing >systems as lines-of-code/day for comparing programmers... >People don't buy CPUs. They buy systems. This discussion has focused on >workstations. That means disk, memory, keyboard, display, and maybe a >network card. Come on, there are a significant number of users for which this is a significant number. Lots of people use workstations primarily as compute servers, and would be very interested in knowing simply how much CPU power they get per dollar, with the minimum number of frills. >The only thing the big numbers-in-lights $/SPECstuff (usually to three >significant figures!!) emphasis produces is more incentive for manufac- >turers to produce low-ball "wheels extra" system configurations--as if >they needed any such incentive. Face it, if you want to give your product >a cheap boost, which is easier: speed up the CPU or take hardware out of >the bottom-of-the-line? Hey, if I have X dollars to spend today, for my purposes, I will go out and buy the lowest of the low-ball configurations of the fastest CPU I can find, because that is the bottom line for the work I do. Sure, this number stinks for most purposes, but it isn't useless. If the company goes out of its way to put a superfast CPU in a supercheap stripped-down box, for me, that is a great deal. -David Hinds dhinds@cb-iris.stanford.edu