Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen From: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: $/CPUmark is a worthless measure Message-ID: <3312@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> Date: 3 Apr 91 16:58:03 GMT References: <2004@kuling.UUCP> <32580014@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> <1991Apr3.010831.3603@ico.isc.com> Reply-To: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) Organization: GE Corp R&D Center, Schenectady NY Lines: 25 In article <1991Apr3.010831.3603@ico.isc.com> rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) writes: | People don't buy CPUs. They buy systems. This discussion has focused on | workstations. That means disk, memory, keyboard, display, and maybe a | network card. (Or does it? One of the egregious bogus comparisons here | actually compared $/SPECxyzzy for machines with and without disks!) Actually most people do buy CPUs. Because no matter who builds the CPU, chances are that the disk was built by people who build disks for other CPU vendors. Yes, there are exceptions, a few companies are willing and able to build their own, or at least have them built to proprietary specs. Most of us are willing to buy a system and add the disk we need, be it ESDI, SMD, SCSI, or whatever. On workstations this is almost always true, on large systems the chances of a some proprietary parts increases, even if it's only the drive electronics. And some applications are so CPU intensive that they are insensitive to i/o performance. Would that the CPU were fast enough to make i/o an issue again. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "Most of the VAX instructions are in microcode, but halt and no-op are in hardware for efficiency"