Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!crdgw1!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!uwm.edu!linac!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nd.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!purdue!haven!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) Newsgroups: comp.compression Subject: Re: theoretical compression factor Message-ID: <15626@smoke.brl.mil> Date: 29 Mar 91 10:37:02 GMT References: <1991Mar25.054838.15588@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <15098:Mar2512:53:1291@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <18263:Mar2518:10:4091@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD. Lines: 8 In article <18263:Mar2518:10:4091@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >... and there is no way they can all be compressed to length n, >as the method in question claims to do. A shorter argument is to note that any invertible method that maps the domain onto the range, which is known to map at least one point to a shorter representation, MUST map at least one other point to a longer representation. (I think this was noted somewhere in Knuth.)