Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!bu.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!stanford.edu!msi.umn.edu!umeecs!telfeyan From: telfeyan@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Roland Telfeyan) Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c Subject: Re: How's Stepstone/Objective-C doing? Message-ID: <1991Apr3.152110.15955@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Date: 3 Apr 91 15:21:10 GMT References: Distribution: comp Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept. Lines: 27 In message cimarron@erewhon.postgres.Berkeley.EDU (Cimarron D. Taylor ) writes: > Brad Cox gave a talk here at Berkeley a few weeks ago. I was > given the impression that he was more interested in library > developement than language development. This is part of his > philosophy of software reusability. > > In particular, when someone asked him why the NeXT machine's > do not come with the Stepstone class library, he said that > Jobs wasn't interested in it. Jobs apparently thought the > language was more important than the library, while Cox > believes that the library is more important than the language. That's all rhetoric. The real reason NeXT decided not to include the Stepstone class library is because it was too buggy. Believe me, I've been programming the NeXT since its Sun cross-development system (System 0.3) in 1988, and at that time it *was* included. Our application made extensive use of it. I forget whether it was in 6.0 or 8.0 that the Stepstone class library was removed. I got the impression NeXT got tired of taking bug reports for Stepstone! So NeXT substituted its own foundation library, a smaller set of objects, but useful and reliable. Roland Telfeyan roland@cpat.umich.edu School of Music roland@gomidas.mi.org University of Michigan 1100 Baits, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2085