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From: swoodcoc@isis.cs.du.edu (Steven Markus Woodcock)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: EFF Chapters
Keywords: EFF college academia chapters
Message-ID: <1991Apr1.061003.18924@isis.cs.du.edu>
Date: 1 Apr 91 06:10:03 GMT
References: <1991Mar19.213148.14254@vpnet.chi.il.us> <669491914.4141@mindcraft.com> <7846@hsv3.UUCP> <1991Mar26.164325.2631@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Reply-To: swoodcoc@isis.UUCP (Steven Markus Woodcock)
Organization: The Good Guys, Inc.
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In article <1991Mar26.164325.2631@spool.cs.wisc.edu> samuel@shemp.cs.wisc.edu (Samuel Bates) writes:
>In article <7846@hsv3.UUCP> mvp@hsv3.UUCP (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>>Yes, but there are people interested in promoting the aims of EFF who
>>aren't interested in promoting the entire spectrum of trendy causes 
>>which the Politically Correct define as "Social Responsibility."
>>The electronic frontier might be better served by a separate group.
>>-- 
>>"It was more dangerous to drive                 Mike Van Pelt
>>away from Three Mile Island than                Headland Technology/Video 7
>>to stay there." -- Dr. Bruce Ames.              ...ames!vsi1!v7fs1!mvp
>
>Before tarring an entire organization with the brush of Political Correctness,
>you should try to find out if Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility
>does in fact promote "trendy causes."  Furthermore, there are twenty different 
>CPSR chapters, and they have widely differing interests.  I'm not saying that
>you shouldn't start a separate group, but kindly do not sling mud at a group
>who is, after all, working with the EFF on a number of civil liberties issues.
>
>						--Samuel Bates
>						  Chair, CPSR-Madison


   With all due respect, Mr. Bates, your organization lost MY respect when
it came down against the SDI concept, favoring the demonstrably amoral
M.A.D. doctrine over M.A.S. (Mutually Assured Survival).

                                                 --Steven M. Woodcock
                                                   SDI Simulations Engineer
                                                   Senior Software Engineer
                                                   National Test Bed

-- 
    "...Men will awake presently and be Men again, and colour and laughter and
 splendid living will return to a grey civilization. But that will only come 
 true because a few Men will believe in it, and fight for it, and fight in its
 name against everything that sneers and snarls at that ideal..."