Xref: utzoo comp.dcom.lans:7634 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:15488 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!jhereg!andrew From: andrew@jhereg.osa.com (Andrew C. Esh) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: 10BaseT installation Message-ID: <1991Apr3.153750.19033@jhereg.osa.com> Date: 3 Apr 91 15:37:50 GMT References: <5438@durin.sparta.COM> Organization: Open Systems Architects, Inc., Mpls, MN Lines: 38 In article <5438@durin.sparta.COM> frankh@durin.laguna.sparta.com (Frank Halsema) writes: >I have read a lot about 10BaseT and I am considering using it in a new >facility. Everything I see has the twisted pair connector as a RJ45 but >inplications are that twited pair uses two pair or four wires. My >question is how many pair do I need and if it is two pair why does >10BaseT use an RJ45 connector. > > >Frank Halsema UUCP: durin!frankh >SPARTA, Inc. Internet: frankh@laguna.sparta.com >23041 de la Carlota, Suite 400 >Laguna Hills Ca, 92653 (714) 768-8161 EXT 339 (714)583-9114 FAX 10baseT tends to be used in the same "wiring closets" (IDF's) as telephone equipment, as well as the same wall plates, so I would guess the use of RJ45 is an attempt to make use of existing telephone wiring, without getting it confused with RJ11. RJ11 won't work with 10baseT jacks or transceivers, since the pairs are 1-2, and 3-6, with the lines as T+, T-, R+, and R-, respectively. Six wire RJ45 doesn't work, since you need pin 1 on the 8 wire RJ45. Pin 1 on the six conductor version connects to pin 2 of the 8 wire outlet. You have to use an 8 conductor RJ45 to plug into the 10baseT outlets and transceivers. Which plugs, punchdowns, wires, and connections you use in between the ends is your business, as long as the connections are fairly secure from EMI ingress, and the wire has at least 3 twists per foot, preferably more. You must maintain the pairs, and the polarity, obviously. Some transceivers will detect backward polarity, and reverse themselves to compensate. Regular "silver ribbon" telephone wire that they use to make desk-to-wall cords will cause collisions on a 10baseT connection. If anyone is interested, I can write a longer posting on the ins and outs of 10baseT, and the experiences I and my co-workers have had with it. -- Andrew C. Esh andrew@osa.com Open Systems Architects, Inc. Minneapolis, MN 55416-1528 So much System, (612) 525-0000 so little CPU time...