Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixb.cc.columbia.edu!es1 From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) Subject: Re: Amiga OS *IS* state of the art, but the NeXT is better Message-ID: <1991Apr3.040256.27402@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Network News) Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) Organization: Columbia University References: <20267@cbmvax.commodore.com> Distribution: usa Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1991 04:02:56 GMT In article melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes: > >Commodore just got the 030 Amiga 3000 out the door. I think it will >be a while before we see an 040 machine from you guys, knowing >Commodore's track record. I suggest skipping the 040 and going >straight to a RISC processor. Things are going to heat up with >introduction HP's Snake computers. NeXT year 15 mips isn't going to >seem all that fast, unless your selling it for $2000. > You sound like someone who doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't want to. It is becoming more and more apparent that you are here simply to cause trouble, not to express real opinions. Commodore has been shipping a 68030 machine for over a year and a half in the form of the A2500/30. Commodore seems to have caught up with the industry pretty fast. The 040 isn't being shipped in machines by anyone except NeXT and maybe HP. The 040s have been available to developers for SO long that everyone has their boards done, they are just waiting for 040s to put in them! I'd say you'll see it for the Amiga as soon as you see it for the Mac. And why do you type NeXT when you using it to mean the word next? And, as to 15 mips not being fast enough, that's why Motorola does things called R&D which allow them to come out with new and faster chips! What a concept! There was the 68000, 010, 020, 030, now the 040, and there'll likely be an 050 as well. And how about a 50MHz 040! > >You would think with over 2 million machines more developers would >support the Amiga. As of last year, that was half as many as Apple. >That should be enough to make developers look your way. I think a >Word Perfect 5.0 and a Lotus 123 for the Amiga would sell a lot more >machines. Commodore can afford to at least pay these guys, if >necessary. > >-Mike The problem with paying these companies is that if they are being bribed into making for the Amiga and otherwise don't want to, their committment will be as bad as WordPerfect's is for the Amiga today. We want companies who WANT to be in the Amiga market. And, as to that 2 million machine base, as most of those machines are A500s without much expansion, the 2 million is a deceptive number. -- Ethan Q: How many Comp Sci majors does it take to change a lightbulb A: None. It's a hardware problem.